A lot of people just lack critical thinking skills and imagination. A lot of people like being at the bottom of hierarchy. A lot of people like when people they dont like suffer, even if it means they do, too. A lot of people are religious. All of these things are plagues on our society, and a lot of them are done on purpose by those in power.
Eh, I think it’s oversimplification to attribute it to a single motivation. There are definitely people like OP is describing, but there are also definitely the ‘temporarily embarrassed millionaire’ types. And honestly I think a damn big percentage is just plain ol’ fear of change wrapped in several layers of rationalization.
Another reason: it’s really easy for unimaginative people to sound smart with cynicism. They’d rather be superior than be right.
“Look at that crash! I told you that flying machines can’t work.”
Oo yeah, for real. I kind of stumbled upon this in my teens (maybe everyone does), but luckily was able to snap out of it, woke up, and realised I could form flexible informed opinions that define my whole personality
Its a lot of just world fallacy too
This is a mistake that many leftists do, thinking that people don’t like authoritarianism. A lot of people crave for it
In theory, a benevolent dictatorship is a good system, that can cut through a lot of bureaucracy and enact good changes in a timely fashion. The obvious problems are who gets to be dictator and how do you keep the dictatorship benevolent.
If I could unilaterally make somebody a dictator and believed they would do what’s best, I’d do it. But I don’t know if there is such a person. To me it just seems like people believe in and trust certain public figures to agree with them, and enact the same changes they’d want.
people tend dislike authoritarianism, but tend to be afraid of society changement. Everybody got contradiction
They see people like Musk, and they see strength, if only because of their economic capabilities. They want a society of strength. A society where people hoard around the few to lift them up. A society that enables greatness. Somebody who can look mortality in the eyes and reject it. To bring us into the future with vitality.
What they fail to see is that by turning the mighty into gods, we turn ourselves into coggs. In the pursuit of lifting them up, we alienate ourselves from the meaningful. Makes us sacrifice for the superficial. We become lifeless and in fear of the meaningful.
Or they are just brainwashed, and can’t fathom another type of society after ~500 years of capitalism.
I’ve known far more Musk fanboys than I would have liked to, and I wouldn’t say they see him or other genocidal pedophiles as gods or anything.
In fact, it’s quite difficult to describe it or compare it to anything, because that sort of blind admiration just plain doesn’t make any sense, and usually contradicts their other beliefs. Which is a big sign of being affected by propaganda.
I don’t defend the rich but I also don’t claim it’s stupid hard to make 75k and up and I will never in my life say starting a career that can help you live comfortably is an impossible task.
I think the unwillingness to invest in one’s self and to sacrifice your thought process of fuck climbing up the ladder, is what’s hurting people’s personal wealth growth.
I think that as much people are preserving themselves and not going into careers because they don’t offer as many benefits as the boomers, I also think people are limiting themselves and I think that if you don’t want to invest in your future, that’s your own fault.
However, I do not agree with generational wealth but I don’t disagree on passing a home down. If you’re fortunate enough to have a house passed down to you, then that’s what you are, fortunate.
I dont agree with trusifarians using their wealth to buy up more property or to be greedy and glutenous with their money.
I don’t hate on the six figure earners but I think once you make 450k/year, you can start figuring out ways to better society.
I think once you hit a 20mil* net worth, you can figure out ways to help other people.
It’s like the Stanford marshmallow experiment. It’s not willpower, it’s that people have been taught that any money we save will be lost.
We’re all expected to invest or lose money to inflation. But most of us don’t know anything about investing. So we trust our money to some Wall Street type, and then get called stupid when we pick the wrong dudes. But you don’t get called stupid if you just spend the money now.
It’s even worse in the USA where everyone has the specter of medical debt hanging over us. You can do everything right and then just get a massive forever debt from which bankruptcy can’t save you. Better to spend the money on a community that might appreciate it.
So we trust our money to some Wall Street type, and then get called stupid when we pick the wrong dudes.
99% of account managers and financial advisors are just some dude. The only sensible thing to invest in is an index fund like VOO, SPLG, FXAIX, IVV, or for non-US stuff, VEU, VSS, or something else based on an index appropriate to your needs.
Genuinely, the best known growth strategy in a capitalist market is also the lowest-brain strategy. Buy an index fund, and then do nothing.
Everything else is just giving money to someone else to do a worse job on average.
You’re not wrong, but do you hear yourself? That’s a terrifying alphabet soup of complicated choices. And in the next thread we’ll talk about AI IPOs dumping on the index fund suckers before a collapse.
And I pointed this out before that rich people inadvertently will end up becoming involved in politics, even if there was not interest or want to in the beginning or was never a goal; It’s shocking how many of them end up getting to know their mayor at a personal level to leverage them.
Most don’t leverage their local government for the better and it’s rare to see it. It’s rare that someone will like actually fund a food bank for a year and become involved in the community. Imagine having enough money to set a trust for a church to have an indefinite food bank? That would be so fucking cool, I would so do that if I had that kind of money to toss around. Or or or like buying old hospitals and completely demolishing them and putting up modern hospitals.
The thread is so lost anymore it doesn’t even matter. In America it is just survival as America becomes Russia. You can’t defend anyone when you can’t even get your doctor visit or medication to live if you even try to rock the boat for more than 3 days. If that. Modern feudalism.
Our first mistake as a nation was not kicking out the royalists.
Alexander Hamilton
The world would be better if a bunch of people could just admit they are into mental BDSM and they are subs
Religion, narcissistic family members, social media algorithms, sandwich shops… all tuned to churn out subs.
I’m only okay with one of those.
(Also you forgot shipyards, BTW.)
Stamp on my brain, master
That’s what the AI is for.
Can Claude wear stilettos?
Found Richard Dawkins’s account
As I heard someone else say recently, everything with conservatives is either team sports or cuck porn and it really seems that’s true.
🤫 you gonna summon them lol
I can’t wait to see their smiling face
Right-wing values can be summarized in one word: Hierarchy.
That also happens to be the literal definition. Surprisingly few people know that the political left and right correspond to equality and hierarchy respectively.
Right and left wing are historical terms stemming from the literal left and right halves of a physical building. If you’re not referring to the revolution era french national assembly, you have to accept that since other connotations may have snuck in along the way.
Even at the time the terms came with complex meanings.
Boiling it down at any time merely to equality versus hierarchy is only something you’d do if you want to misrepresent people by oversimplification.
She ain’t wrong
I sort of disagree, it’s that they want to feel safe and taken care of. They’ve made Trump their Jesus, literally. He is their shepherd and will only do well for them.
That’s why the gas and inflation going in the wrong direction after 2 years is fucking with their heads. If he’s wrong about one thing, and god can’t be wrong, then maybe he isn’t a god.
The entire point of religion is to make the insecure feel secure, like the answers to the hard questions exist and Sky Daddy is looking out for them
Conservatives are naturally a servile people. They desire to be ruled. They want a daddy.
They have been told that their sky daddy will actively judge their lives and they will get what sky daddy thinks they deserve. They have been told this so often and in so many ways that they now worship money. Money becomes the way for them to tell how sky daddy judges their lives. Obviously, this means that those who have more money are more beloved by sky daddy and therefore should be listened to and obeyed.
Yeah, they want a pyramid shape to the world.
They want a single big daddy on top of them, and then an enormous pile of other people below them to be a big daddy to.
As long as they are not at the bottom of the pile, they’re happy.
I’m not even so sure about the second part. Plenty of them seem happy to be perpetual bottoms.
They need other races to be below them
And women
Yep, but uh, it’s not just conservatives. There are lots from all sorts that want someone else to make the decisions, for both good and ill
Sounds like embarrassed conservatives.
