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    Recently downloaded a “cast” app because Miracast doesn’t work on GrapheneOS. On first launch, I got 3 consecutive full screen video ads followed by a popup to “subscribe” to their paid service. Next, another popup to rate them 5* in google play store. Note that at this point, I haven’t even reached the main screen of the app… You know, to actually try it and see if it works.

    Uninstalled that garbage and gave it the 1* rating it deserves.

    Seriously, I’m so sick and tired of these “modern” apps which don’t even have the decency to offer a good quality paid version. $8/mo for a stupid utility I use maybe a few times a year? Who tf do you think you are?

    Using apps on GrapheneOS, I also get notified when they use the play integrity API… I find it insulting when apps like Reddit attempt to access that… Seriously, you’re just an online forum. Why tf would you care about whether my phone is rooted or not?

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    Immediate disable of notifications and one star review for abusing notifications. I do the same thong when legitimatel services text me for marketing or surveys. Texts are meant for more urgent communication that needs almost immediate attention and it’s an abuse of trust to test people like that.

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      I do the same thong when legitimatel services text me for marketing or surveys.

      It’s fun that I can’t decide if that’s a deeply insightful yet misplaced shot at mattel for having a small role in developing a fairly common sex toy material or a series of spelling errors.

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        ‘Attorney Barbie wearing a G-String’ would be make a fun ai prompt though

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    Heh, I like the “I kill you now” human mode in this. The developers don’t realise we have our own antibullshit software. Evolution playing out in app survival.

    Too much fuckery? Off at the wall !

    Put your foot on the power switch down till it stops whirring.

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    This is why I recommend FOSS apps for base functionality like that. There’s plenty folks out there, who’ve implemented a grocery list app as a hobby project, who don’t need to try to make money off it. As such, their app can exist without ads, tracking or needy notifications.

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      I agree, when my wife switched to iPhone a few years back, I had trouble finding foss apps for ios. I guess not being able to sideload means most devs will want to recoup the apple development fee. I don’t blame them really.

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        I used an iPhone for a few months last year and I had such a hard time with just how much it costs for apps. Everything is a subscription and you have no options for sideloading your own app or FOSS. I tried to set my alarm to a piece of music that was released under a creative commons license and the only way to do it was to spend $1 with Apple.

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          On iPad you did not even have a calculator app until recently. You had to buy one or get one with ads. I’m taking super basic functionality here right. No scientific calculator or anything.

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          Totally get what you mean, I’m using an iPhone right now and it’s super polished, but yeah, the whole subscription everything and lack of sideloading can be frustrating. Do you mainly use Android or Linux now for that freedom?

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            Do you mainly use Android or Linux now for that freedom?

            I use Android as my daily phone, but I do keep going that I’ll have a Linux phone that meets my needs some day.

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    I hate that for a lot of these apps there’s no way to turn off these kinds of ad notifications without stopping the real notifications you want from the app.

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    Do it then. Replace the app with pen and paper. I think the app is calling your bluff.

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    It makes me a bit sad that there are people getting around that don’t know how to declaw their smartphone with disabled notifications, permissions and such. It’s not their fault, these things are a fucking nightmare when left to go feral.

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      The thing is, at least on iPhone, is when you first install an app it’ll ask some of these questions and you can say, and should, say no for the most part:

      • This app wants to track you. Allow?
      • This app wants to send you notifications. Allow?
      • This app wants access to your photos? Allow?
      • This app wants to see your contacts. Allow?

      Etc.

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    Modern apps out here with the confidence of a CEO and the usefulness of a broken pencil.

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      I am visiting denmark in summer and wanted to learn some danish. I looked at duolingo, then at their privacy policy, then i threw the idea away. Babbel is better in terms of privacy but still not great. I haven‘t found an alternative product yet.

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            Thanks for the heads up, I never cared much for American companies using my data because I didn’t care much of them making money off my back but I feel that I have to change that with now geopolitic situation changed. I don’t want my data accessible to a government that has increasingly closer ties with regimes like the ones in China, Russia and Israel.

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        Was thinking perhaps Rosetta Stone, they’re old and well-established, and while I’ve not read through their privacy policy on account of being dead tired at the moment, at a glance it looks digestible.

        But then I noticed that they don’t do Danish.

        Though maybe we’re too app focused. Denmark has some really good children’s books authors, H.C. Andersen is classic, most people probably know him through his work “Den Lille Havfrue”, or at least the Disnep adaptation, “The Little Mermaid.” For pronunciation my favourite method is singing and mimicking. I enjoy the mouthfeel of other languages, though admittedly Danish is incredibly difficult as the sounds are so different from Swedish.

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          Yeah honestly children’s books are a good start if you are serious about it, but since I just want to learn the absolute basics for day to day communication, this seems overkill for me. I think danish should be quite approachable for me though since I speak german in mother tongue

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      Right? Like “You wanted me to notice you? Oh I noticed you now. And while I’m aware of you, let’s just go ahead and take away some of your permissions…”

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      I uninstalled the Carl’s jr app because it’s notification sound was of someone taking a bite of something but exaggerated and more like what you would expect from a cartoon character. That shit made me uninstall it fast, I know I could have just disabled notifications, but my phone making that sound at me randomly when I was in the middle of something pissed me off.

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      I’ve been using it for years, but only for ~10 minutes a day. Obviously it can’t teach you to speak it, but to read and write? Absolutely. The secret is to NEVER install the app. My philosophy is that if it has a website then everything should be doable via the website, and I won’t install the app.

      NOTHING should urge you to install their app, unless it actually cannot function properly on a, say, desktop PC. In case of a trekking and hiking app, I understand it only works properly knowing your location (I would still be terribly paranoid about what else it does with my location info, apart from recommending paths and whatnot). But other than that, I always assume that when something could be perfectly done via a website and they still push their app, they just want to sell your data.

      And believe me, using Duolingo via the website is definitely less frustrating than having the app.

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        I will never forgive Apple for fucking over the open web. When the iPhone launched it was web-only. You could ‘install’ web apps, and any device APIs - accelerated graphics, hardware sensors, location, offline storage, intents, contacts lists, push notifications - were user-selected and presented as standard JavaScript interfaces. One app, literally every platform, and iPhone was there first. It was in a period where every platform was rushing to support web applications with high-performance browser engines and Apple looked like they were going to do for websites-as-applications what they had done for USB ten years earlier: recognise it as the best way forward and push it hard, compatibility be damned.

        Then the iPhone started selling well and they got fucking dollar signs in their eyes, realising how much money there was to be made forcing everyone to develop on their platform, in their language, for thier devices. Apps, distribution channels, operating system, services, devices, development, all of it on their terms and on thier platforms. The second they became mainstream they started locking everyone into their vertical ecosystem and wringing as much cash out as they could, exposing their hipocracy and showing that they were as anti-competetive and destructive as Microsoft at their 1990s worst.

        In 1980, a large number of experts in business and general tech predicted that by 1990 most written communications would be fully electronic, something akin to email. What they didn’t predict was the appearance of the fax machine, which was novel enough to be exciting but simple enough to be understood, and people flocked to it. As a result, electronic communication was stalled for about twenty years. I have no doubt that at some point in the future, Apps will be seen the same way but I think it will take a lot longer to get there.

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        So as someone who used the app daily for 5,09315068 years, do you feel you learned a new skills or has it only given you the feeling of not wasting all your time in unproductive apps?

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          I’m doing the Japanese course, and it’s… Mixed. I definitely know more than before I started, but duo really isn’t the best app for Japanese

          I used lingodeer for a while and it was a lot better, but they jacked up the price massively, after which I stopped

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            As someone that used to use it, I feel like it lost it’s utility massively after learning hiragana and katakana. After that it’s much better to use things with more kanji if you actually want to be able to read. I did see they tried to add kanji though, but don’t know if it’s enough.

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    “A new generation of Sirius Cybernetics Corporation robots and computers with the new GPP feature”

    “GPP, what’s that?”

    “It says ‘Genuine People Personalities’.”

    “Sounds ghastly”