Remember a guy telling it is more efficient to paint over sold Tesla to discourage buyers. But we have to admit news of burning Tesla is pretty discouraging too.
Seems like the thought is: if you paint a Tesla you prevent the sale of that one Tesla, but if you burn one, the entire populace has second thoughts about buying any Tesla.
Burn it all down! Every thing that fascist fuck has!
Those are rookie numbers, we need to get them higher!
In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”
The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.
And if it bleeds we can kill it.
I guess he should have said “Hail to the proletariat”?
Ok but go at the billionaires. Not Dave from Accounting.
Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.
The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.
Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.
On the other hand, if you only pay for things that don’t support evil, you’ll starve in Capitalism.
And that’s by design.Then let it starve.
Oh no… Any way…
At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales centers are corporate owned.
I don’t think that bit of syntax changes the point at all.
It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.
The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.
There is a huge difference between an independently owned franchise committing arson vs the manufacturer.
Tesla’s aren’t selling?
- Set them on fire.
- Claim that it’s arson.
- File insurance claim.
- Profit.
Short term profit. Long term, good luck being insurable.
I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.
Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.
I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.
Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.
He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.
He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.
One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.
Such a great podcast! Absolute Talmudic in its thoroughness.
‘Know Rogan’ is a pretty good new addition if you haven’t checked it out yet.
I’ll check it out!
I count myself among the lucky who has never heard that overgrown thumb talk for longer than a sound bite.
Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder
If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.
They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
- Large shareholders can’t just sell. There are rules to prevent stock manipulation
- He’d be the first victim of tanking the stock. Not in his best interest
- He can’t sell any shares used for collateral
The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.
Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.
Id rather just see Tesla burn to the ground.
It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.
We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.
-The Tesla board, probably
The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.
The board is filled with family and close friends. They’ll protect him as long as possible.
They’ll lose the ship to save one expendable captain.
If they’re so determined to protect their Nazi captain, perhaps they deserve to lose the ship.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions
On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.
He would need to get rid of his stock before I even consider buying from any of his companies’ products.
Not getting starlink for my van. I guess I’ll have to stick close to cell towers on work days.
Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.
I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.
Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.
And ending production of the Swastitruk would help.
I wonder what the insurance premium on a Tesla is these days?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
Probably about the same as any other car.
No, my 2019 model 3 is almost twice as expensive as my son’s 2023 Prius.
I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.
If red cars are more expensive to insure, a tesla has to be more expensive too, right?
I’m not too concerned about the dealerships. They have insurance. But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed. That’s not Canadian.
Also, car dealerships are the backbone of local conservative party funding. They are the financial backbone of the fascist movement
But can these people stop doing it to privately owned vehicles? And also, stop harassing the telsers on the road. I’ve seen a few videos now of drivers being harassed.
No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don’t want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.
To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don’t believe he had any idea. I don’t necessarily think he should have his car burned.
Elon Musk has been a shitbag for years.
Sounds like one of your neighbors just needs to stop driving the Klankar, then.
This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They’re out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.
This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right
There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.
Which side are you on?
This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can’t call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I’m not. Can’t be critical or you’re labeled a “them”
There are flowers that smell pretty and there’s flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren’t really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?
So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?
Or, what’s your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.
No one cares what you hate, again, you are no one.
I’m literally one
So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.
Nuance my friend.
Elon Musk has been a total fuckstick for a long time. They were just ignoring it because cool car don’t go vroom.
Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.
If it’s cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.
Must be rough bring a CT owner. First, your vehicle depreciates 50-100k, then it starts falling apart, and now everyone hates you for it.
Still don’t feel bad for them though.
I bought mine 6 years ago. I’m going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son’s car just died. I wouldn’t blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.
Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.
Here’s a thought… Pre-vandalize it.
Get some white paint that won’t damage your car, and write “Fuck Musk”, or “Swasticar” so it looks like it’s been keyed into your paint. Maybe grab a quality “cracked window” decal and slap it on the glass. Finally, take your bumper covers off.
Then when (or if) this shit cools off, you can just wash the car, peel the decal and re-attach your bumper covers.
And then park it front of a Tesla sales center?
I have a friend that does EV conversions of RAM Promaster vans. I wouldn’t mind using my car to do a conversion and then build it out for a class b camper van.
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This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.
Yer heart is in the right place.
I hope you can gain perspective.
So, the time has come that people need to ask themselves: Are they willing to be associated with a fascist, in any way? If they are ok with that, why?
No one cares what you do or don’t condone. You’re no one.
And neither are you in the grand scheme. However what you are condoning will just radicalize the message and have it not resonate with those who’s help we will need in the future if this collapse actually comes about
It should not be expected. Its ok to say that. Nobody has any fuck up your property.
You do you I guess.
It’s okay to say we don’t agree with you either. Deal. With. It.
Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.
Most were on this guys jock until he threw his support behind the fuckstick
Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.
I’m sure you’d find a way to sell it then.
Sell what exactly? Trying to be rational in an increasingly irrational world?
So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Why are they still driving them, then?
Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.
Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.
Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.
So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.
Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.
But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially… No matter how evil the intention is.
I totally understand where yer coming from. And I hope that those who can decouple themselves from it, do so. But like hell I’m going to endorse harassing people without context. All that does is endorse extremism. Extreme acts can be condoned, but I sure hope you have a plan for afterwards. If not, you’ve just become what you are railing against.
You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.
Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa’s swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?
We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That’s all the needed context.
afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I’m not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.
This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we’re just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.
afraid of what?
Afraid of being associated with a fascist.
This was funny for a minute.
It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.
Most of the world is raping and pillaging lol most people are blank slates that do what they are told.
Look at MAGA for proof and all the proof from other countries that are fucking MAGA, too.
Look at the religions we made to try to put the fear of God into people to stop killing each other.
Come the fuck on.
I’m not following sorry
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales locations are corporate owned.
Furthers my point then.
Actually, it’s the exact opposite of your point.
The point where I made that I don’t give a stuff about the dealerships?
Okay.
I’ll use my fucking free speech to flip off teslas while I still fucking can. Until you physically stop me you will deal with it.
Flip them off all you’d like. That’s fine.
When you start brake checking people just cause? I don’t think yer doing the cause any favours.
largest car vandalism reported in Canada… so far.
It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.
The feelings of cars…?
Precisely
Is it though?
It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.
Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.
For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.
Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.
Don’t even get me started on how car companies bought those lovely trams just to dismantle them afterwards
Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.
People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
Hold my beer. *picks up rock
Make their insurance super high.
oh no.
Anyway…
those are rookie numbers, we can do better!
The dealership has insurance and destroyed cars are like sold cars for Te… that company. Or am I missing something?
Insurance companies are now talking about canceling Tesla coverage because of the high risk of vandalism, so it’s making people (including dealerships) rethink their options.
So it’s working.
Yes.
Destroyed cars?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
From the article. A quick polish and a time swap and they’re as good as new.
Big thing is that people now know Telsa’s are not just sold by a loon, they’re a vandalism target. Which is two pretty big reasons no to buy a car from Musk.
Even if you like Musk, do you want to have high insurance rates and spend time at the body shop?
and spend time at the body shop?
Fun fact: not only do Cybertrucks have bare stainless steel body panels, which are extremely difficult and expensive to repair because you have to bodywork them perfect since you can’t use body filler, they have a frame made out of aluminum, which for various metallurgical reasons (work-hardening, forming a passivation layer that makes it much harder to weld, etc.) is also very difficult and expensive to repair.
In that sense, you’re probably less likely to spend time at the body shop with a Cybertruck because it’s designed to be damn near disposable.
Although, since most people seem to be keying, spray painting, and putting stickers on these cars, the stainless is very easy to clean. Just rub some steel wool in the direction of the stainless grain. Apparently they don’t have any clear coat. You can clean them like an industrial stovetop.
Yeah, the damage would have to physically displace (i.e. dent) or chemically corrode the surface of the panel in order to be difficult to fix.
Does burning count as any of these, by any chance?
Yes. High heat can cause the metal to corrode faster or even melt. (And, ya know, completely destroy the rest of the car.)
They will have to pay here, yes. And then they will cancel the contract, because high risk and not worth it. The second act of vandalism will then hurt. And the question is: Will the insurance give them the “new” (catalog) price or the “market value” price?
Couple of claims by a dealership and their insurance will get cancelled.
“So, you’re saying we get one free claim for as many cars as we can burn in one night without loosing our insurance?” - Them, probably.
Does Tesla use dealerships in Canada? In the U.S., they don’t. They have showrooms owned by the company itself and you order online. My state requires dealerships1 and just have service centers here.
1 It’s a wildly antiquated law. When cars first came out, states passed laws requiring dealerships to guarantee the car companies could service the vehicles. Those laws are still on the books basically because car dealership owners are generally rich people who buy state legislatures. (And there’s a shocking amount who are state legislators.)
Tesla does not have dealerships.
I doubt that insurance pays retail price to the dealers.
