• Psythik@lemmy.world
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      I’m trying but the girlfriend refuses. She watches YouTube on the TV and does everything else on her phone; literally only uses the laptop to play The Sims 4 (which her 1080ti can handle just fine), yet she’s convinced that she will need a brand new gaming machine with a 4090/5090 as soon as Microsoft dumps WIn10. She’s afraid that she’ll completely break the OS if she switches to Linux. (Which is plausible, though unlikely.

      I’m hoping she’ll change her mind as soon as she realizes just how much more GPUs cost these days, especially mobile ones.

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        Create a live USB stick and demonstrate it to her, without deleting Windows. Bonus points if you rice the fuck out of it with some kawaii shit for your GF and make Sims 4 work with Wine.

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    “Trade it”

    TO FUCKING WHOM? The whole point is that you made it useless.

    (Unless this is Microsoft providing some free advertising for Linux)

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      Probably going to be a ton of cheap used computers on the market in the near future for installing Linux on

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    Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I’ll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

    Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn’t be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It’s even higher specced than many other ‘supported’ chips.

    MS apparently just decided I hadn’t spent enough money lately. Well now I won’t - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

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      I’m in a similar boat. My computer meets all of the other requirements like TPM and whatnot, yet they are arbitrarily deciding that my processor is too old. And for some reason you can walk into your local computer store and buy a laptop with the shittiest processor and other specs possible that somehow runs Windows 11. Just because the processor on the new shitbox was manufactured more recently. Ridiculous.

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      Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven’t had a single problem with any of my games - I’m getting better framerates, too.

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        Any reason you went with fedora? I’ve been partial to fedora for a decade, but last I knew it wasn’t recommended for a daily driver given the upstream fuckery from redhat.

        Asking cuz I’m about two weeks from kicking win10 in the dick and moving to alma or something.

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          Everyone should use the most polished, solid and up to date distros. Opensuse and Fedora. There is no fucked up. Fedora is a serious project that Red hat uses to base their distro on. And Opensuse is German engineering. Serious is not even the correct word here, they are state of art distros.

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    While I agree this is a shit thing to do, I am looking forward to the influx of cheap hardware.

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    Hold on to your butts.

    Big influx of Linux-compatible office PCs hitting eBay soon.

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    This is the biggest garbage a tech company did to almost 256 million PCs in use and fully working. I installed Linux Mint on all three PCs I own. Free and works far better than I thought.

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        Please explain how malware would get on my laptop now in a way that it didn’t, oh, say, in the last 12 years?

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          Considering you stopped receiving security updates years ago, any kind of malware developed since then is going to have a field day with you.

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            That’s amazing, it’s had years to have its field day. Where is it, please?

            You guys understand you have to actively install malware and viruses, right? It’s not like on TV with a skull and crossbones appearing on the monitor.

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              You’re just making yourself a target. People go after low-hanging fruit, and people who haven’t had security updates in a decade are top of the list.

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                Again, how will this happen? This is just technical illiteracy, my friend.

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                  I don’t know what the fuck you do on the internet… Are you really trying to suggest people don’t get hacked like this? People have lost millions in crypto from shit like that. I know you don’t care about crypto or whatever, but it doesn’t make the situation less real…

                  Some people have things of value on their internet-connected devices. It’s just foolish to not stay up to date with security updates.

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    Yeah once windows 10 is done I’m moving to Linux. Use mint on the laptop but I’ll install it on my main PC unless valve launches steam os

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    Trade it in to who? Who’s buying PCs that can’t be used? I mean there’s the retro market, but AFAIK they aren’t buying anything after Windows XP.

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        That’s true, but the supply vastly outstrips the demand. They may make great Linux machines, but the majority of 10-15 year old computers have little to no economic value.

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            I’m not saying that old hardware is useless. I make good use out of old hardware too. I have an old i5 Dell from about 2012 running ZoneMinder, a Phenom II system from around 2009 that I use a Linux server, an even older Core 2 Duo system that’s a glorified MP3 player, and even a very early 2000’s Pentium III that I use for a router (sadly I’m going to have to retire it from these duties soon - it can barely handle a 100 mbps DSL connection, and it’s too old and outdated to run the modern router distributions).

            However, for every one of those computers I have another one like it sitting in a closet plus a few extras. All the geeks and tinkerers I know are also swimming in old hardware. If I really wanted to get rid of this stuff, I’d have a hard time giving it away. Economically, this stuff is worthless. The supply greatly exceeds the demand(*)

            (*) well, except maybe the Pentium III… it’s old enough now that retro gamers may be interested…

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        Why would you want to though? I can understand the retro market because there is software like games that either won’t run very well, or won’t run at all on modern hardware. I’m in the market for a ‘powerful’ machine circa 2003-2005 for that exact reason.

        When it comes to machines made in 2015? I’m not sure there’s a lot you can run on those machines that you couldn’t on modern hardware, apart from Windows 11.

        I guess you could use them for things like media servers, but it would have to be phenomenally cheap, as in cheaper than cheap modern hardware.

        Personally, my rule is a 10 year gap is old, a 20 year gap is retro.

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    Use Linux. And dont listen to zealts who say its not a viable option. Its actually way ahead than Windows or Macos