• venotic@kbin.melroy.org
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    21 hours ago

    Yeah just who exactly out there can you go to, to simply ‘trade in’ a computer? It’s not like a car where you trade in a car for another car.

    I don’t really see an awful lot of computer trade-in programs, they aren’t just going to give you a beefy PC with Windows 11 on it for a computer you’ve ran a good 5 or more some odd years with Windows 10.

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    2 days ago

    While I agree this is a shit thing to do, I am looking forward to the influx of cheap hardware.

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    7 days ago

    Trade it in to who? Who’s buying PCs that can’t be used? I mean there’s the retro market, but AFAIK they aren’t buying anything after Windows XP.

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        6 days ago

        That’s true, but the supply vastly outstrips the demand. They may make great Linux machines, but the majority of 10-15 year old computers have little to no economic value.

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            4 days ago

            I’m not saying that old hardware is useless. I make good use out of old hardware too. I have an old i5 Dell from about 2012 running ZoneMinder, a Phenom II system from around 2009 that I use a Linux server, an even older Core 2 Duo system that’s a glorified MP3 player, and even a very early 2000’s Pentium III that I use for a router (sadly I’m going to have to retire it from these duties soon - it can barely handle a 100 mbps DSL connection, and it’s too old and outdated to run the modern router distributions).

            However, for every one of those computers I have another one like it sitting in a closet plus a few extras. All the geeks and tinkerers I know are also swimming in old hardware. If I really wanted to get rid of this stuff, I’d have a hard time giving it away. Economically, this stuff is worthless. The supply greatly exceeds the demand(*)

            (*) well, except maybe the Pentium III… it’s old enough now that retro gamers may be interested…

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        Why would you want to though? I can understand the retro market because there is software like games that either won’t run very well, or won’t run at all on modern hardware. I’m in the market for a ‘powerful’ machine circa 2003-2005 for that exact reason.

        When it comes to machines made in 2015? I’m not sure there’s a lot you can run on those machines that you couldn’t on modern hardware, apart from Windows 11.

        I guess you could use them for things like media servers, but it would have to be phenomenally cheap, as in cheaper than cheap modern hardware.

        Personally, my rule is a 10 year gap is old, a 20 year gap is retro.

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    7 days ago

    Use Linux. And dont listen to zealts who say its not a viable option. Its actually way ahead than Windows or Macos

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        7 days ago

        Please explain how malware would get on my laptop now in a way that it didn’t, oh, say, in the last 12 years?

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          7 days ago

          Considering you stopped receiving security updates years ago, any kind of malware developed since then is going to have a field day with you.

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            6 days ago

            That’s amazing, it’s had years to have its field day. Where is it, please?

            You guys understand you have to actively install malware and viruses, right? It’s not like on TV with a skull and crossbones appearing on the monitor.

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              6 days ago

              You’re just making yourself a target. People go after low-hanging fruit, and people who haven’t had security updates in a decade are top of the list.

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                  5 days ago

                  I don’t know what the fuck you do on the internet… Are you really trying to suggest people don’t get hacked like this? People have lost millions in crypto from shit like that. I know you don’t care about crypto or whatever, but it doesn’t make the situation less real…

                  Some people have things of value on their internet-connected devices. It’s just foolish to not stay up to date with security updates.