Project Fucking 2025!
Red states are becoming very scary places
Sherman should’ve executed all slaveowners.
You won’t hear me argue against that.
Joe Arpaio’s old county. They’re keeping the traditions alive, I see.
“The man should be given honors for doing the reich the favor of disposing of the untermensch, even if it did fail.”
(The cops had been ignoring his family begging them to check in for months.)
from the wiki article on the murder
Assistant DA Kelly Wolford said, “A hate crime would make this charge about Sam’s gender or about Sam’s race, and it’s so much bigger. To limit us to a hate crime would be an injustice to Sam. Sam was beaten, assaulted, sexually abused, starved, held captive. And we cannot make sense of that. We cannot put that on his gender, and we cannot put that on his race”
like what are you talking about
Once she got a cop who raped a kid weekend sentences.
Here’s what happened to Sam by the way - I’m sure this was just a regular murder and none of these actions were motivated by transphobic hate.
He was also denied proper nutrition and hydration, forced to eat feces, forced to drink urine and chew spit, Wolford said. He was physically restrained, forced to obey commands like a dog, covered in the face with towels and shirts, duct taped and had bleach poured on him by the defendants, she said.
He was repeatedly struck with numerous objects including sticks, dog toys, rope, bottles, belts, canes and wooden boards, according to court documents.
Edit: anyone remember why Norm McDonald got fired from SNL? Was it OJ or was it what he said about Brandon Teena?
Pretty sure it was cuz one of the nbc top dogs was close with OJ and Norm wouldn’t stop making jokes about OJ being a murderer. He was warned to stop and instead of giving in, he doubled down. Members of the cast and writers respected him for it and have spoke about it on podcasts and such.
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait…
The title made me think the attacker couldn’t be charged with a HATE crime… Which is dumb and shitty and makes me want to revolt.
But they aren’t charging him with ANY CRIME.
What in the actual fuck
Gays don’t have rights per fatheads who think a fairy tale is reality. Remember these people think they are going to heaven.
We should wall off America, and treat it like some cursed, forbidden land.
Just the south.
That’s where all this filth sprung from and continues to infest the rest of the country.
They were so evil they didn’t just inspire Hitler and the nazis, he considered them too extreme in their racial views.
A self invented reward that they argue over. I think when you die you’re dead and that’s it, so to me it’s just people making up bizarre ways to congratulate themselves on following their own cancerous code of ethics. Like sure whatever it takes, man. Just… Maybe your ethics are fucked up and wrong and you’re in a cult.
Lumping everyone who is religious in the one boat with the nut jobs makes no sense and displays your ignorance.
Sincerely, a religious person who likely agrees with you on almost everything moral.
ACAB. if you want to change my mind, reform your religion. until then i will lump you in with the rest of those disgusting subhumans because the end result is suffering and i’m here to solve problems.
I wouldn’t lump all the people of a religion into the same boat if that religion didn’t have a death grip on the levers of power due to its congregants willingness to spill blood for those ends over the past two millennia.
As an institution, Christianity has relied on the passive support as well as the active participation of the majority of its congregants to dominate Western civilization through violence. Their current position of power is built on countless mass graves, slavery, genocide, and every form of bigotry imaginable being upheld and promoted by its followers for centuries. It’s only in the last few decades that there has been any kind of push for change, and it’s been less than incremental. We can’t even elect a woman as president of the US, much less a queer person or even an open atheist. This is because the majority of religious people will not accept it.
You may be a good person, but you are the anomaly in the grand scheme of your religion. You are the outlier. A violent biker gang doesn’t cease to be a violent biker gang just because a few of its members hand out stuffed animals to kids once a year. That’s called PR, and I’m not falling for it.
Reform your institution top-down. Kick out the power hungry. Kick out the depraved leaders who fuck little kids and cover it up. Kick out the grotesquely wealthy who prey on the poor to buy a new jet. Make them the outliers. Until you do that, your association with them is a conscious choice, and a choice of conscience.
I agree with a lot of what you say.
nobody cares what you have to say, theist
I don’t doubt it. My comment was more aimed at the general idea that religious people shouldn’t be lumped together, more than at you specifically. Interestingly, as I scrolled past this post, I came upon this one. Here’s the linked article.
‘God has an order’: Head of Trump’s faith office says women must ‘submit’ to men
Televangelist Paula White, leader of the White House Faith Office, argued that women must “submit” to men.
During a Wednesday interview on Real America’s Voice, host Steve Gruber spoke to White about the state of faith in America during President Donald Trump’s second term in office.
“God is moving mightily, and what’s so exciting to me?” White explained. “It’s especially among young people and men. Men are the fastest returning to church.”
Gruber agreed that “real men” were needed to take leadership roles.
“Absolutely,” White continued. “They are becoming the bedrock, which is how God designed… Because God has an order.”It’s really difficult not to lump all Christians together when someone like Paula White has so much influence on one of the most powerful governments on earth, and there is no push-back from the Christian community as a whole. She preaches blatant bigotry from the seat of government, and Christian leaders and congregations are silent. It’s hard to disentangle the good from the bad when everyone is quiet.
Every movement against hate has relied upon allies. Women’s suffrage needed men, Civil Rights needed white folks, LGBTQ+ rights needs straight folks, and so on. We need Christians like yourself to be loud as fuck about this. I don’t want to lump you in with them. I want you to be the standard by which they are judged, not the other way around.
I completely understand all your frustrations.
I despise Trump and his administration with every fibre of my being.
I think a lot of “Christians” in America deserve those quotation marks because they use the religion to feel good about themselves and feel superior to others, instead of using the preachings of God to help people in need.
At the end of the days that’s what religion is all about to me. Helping those in need, whoever they may be to the best of my ability.
I hope the people of America are able to turn away from the path of bastardising the word of God to suit their political agenda.
Religion has no place in government.
Don’t tell us to stop noticing when religious people are shitty. Tell religious people to stop being shitty.
I called them nut jobs but ok.
Those religious people you refer to are pieces of shit who act like pieces of shit.
Happy now?
What pisses me off about Christians is they believe in an almighty creator but dont commit themselves to him. If I believed eternal paradise truly came from following the Bible I would do everything in my power to follow it. But oh so casually do they follow the proper rules. These Christian nationalists can’t be bothered to even do the bare minimum. They should be offering the shirts off their backs to migrants. Instead they call for them to be imprisoned. It’s a flock of disgusting hypocrites. Religion is a disease for the weak-minded.
Those religious people you refer to are pieces of shit who act like pieces of shit.
Don’t tell me. Tell them. They need to hear it.
I do when I see them.
Thank you for aligning with my morality. I appreciate that you believe I should exist and have rights (probably, hopefully). There are people in the cults that try to adapt it to their conflicting views of reality.
One of the foundational problems is of foundational world view, and it terrifies me. Let me explain:
I base my morality on a series of questions built upon each other. Some starting points are: “is killing wrong?”, followed by many successive questions, such as looking for exceptions. This much is basic philosophy, but gets complicated quickly.
You and I differ by that I base my morality on this life, and this life alone, without religion. I do not believe there is a sky daddy, I do not believe there are gods of the sea, I do not believe mountains are gods and such, as there is negative evidence for those things - I do not follow faith like that, and do not follow a cult book of rules and made up punishments.
However, you do. And I know that many other people do, too. They follow of various strengths, and unpredictable and inconsistent ways. Different religions, different denominations, different churches, different stages of their lives… Whatever. It’s all somewhat the same amount to me.
Now, the problem with that is that your morality (and as I try to predict and communicate with others, too) is based upon your view of the world -> which is defined by those imaginary rules, societies, heiarchies, with leaders and laws and taboos and secret societies and and stuff (a cult). It’s difficult to leave and structured fundamentally to control and expand to dominate. Not all, I realize that. But, like most good things about religion, those are the exceptions to the rule, and volatile at best.
So, where when I place my limits on when it’s bad or acceptable to kill or what is good and bad, it is from reality…
Yours is too, but with added rules. Occasionally, you have built in rules like “it’s good to help people because afterlife”. But you view afterlife as important, so important that it overrides otherwise mutual social contracts, such as letting queer people be happy being queer, or other such things that religion peaches against.
I do not have those rules, you do.
We play by different rules.
Fundamental world view rules.
Mine are based in reality. I honestly have no idea what the fuck yours are based in, because regardless of what religion you are, people pick and choose and make stuff up all the time.
That is the difference between you and I.
And also why neither of us are ignorant, but also why I lump religious people together: because you all follow in varying amounts the varying made up imaginary rules based on imaginary made up groups and made up books. I don’t know you, I don’t know how far you will go, I don’t know what your morality truly is, nor your true code of ethics. I fundamentally cannot trust you, because faith is so personal, and because religious people are all literally in cults, gravitating as followers in various amounts.
It’s terrifying and I’ll put up with you. I mean you no ill will, but I also know that you’re inherently dangerous and two faced and manipulative and liars and the dominant force around the world right now, and overwhelmingly in history.
The rules I follow are based around when one dies, that’s the end. So all of my morality and ethics are based around the experiences we have here and trying to make it a better place for everybody, nothing more or less.
Can you honestly say the same? Or do you believe in things that matter to you but not me, that I do not believe exist, that you will fight for, make decisions upon, try to change in others, follow your cult advice, and ultimately fear?
What does your faith mean to you? What would you be like without it? How would your life be different? What would you be like if you believed in a different human religion?
I am not bound by these specific human tethers. I am bound by others, but not religion. I question the others as much as I can, but the more I find out, the more rotten I find things really are. From ordered, predictable, repeating chaos, but still rotten. Rotten, because I know things could be better, yet are getting worse for reasons we all know some of, and few of us continue to drill down on because along with some growth, can also be torment.
Live your life. Do what you think is best. Everybody is that way, and nothing I say will change that. All I ask is that you go with peace and good will, and try to find a way to accept my hopefully very well justified distrust of religion, and my immense dislike of it which stems from direct pain and suffering caused by it and the members of it and the horrifying twisting of what it does to the minds of them. I wish you well, but I also wish those who you affect, well, myself included. We are, after all, all in this together.
Thanks for the time you spent replying.
I’m very offended, not sure if that was your intent or not. You seem determined to see the bad in religion, likely because of so many people preaching it who are complete pieces of shit.
Those people are liars. It saddens me that you use their lies to judge people like me.
Take care, hope you have a good life.
Not my intent to offend. Just to defend myself.
Same.
Did I say something that required you to defend yourself?
So if I call Trump a slur in AZ, stab him, and run off that’s cool, right?
No. Because he is wealthy.
But if you say Donald was gay, maybe?
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Wait wait wait, you said it was a gay man that was stabbed? Sorry, my hands are tied. Playbook says gay guys can’t get stabbed.
It’s illegal for gay people to be stabbed why did he do that?
The body has a way of shutting that whole thing down.
He probably asked the knife to penetrate him, it’s what the gays do, you know. - Detective Brownbeater
Get strapped, the law isn’t going to protect us and seems to be used to harass us
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
Rules for thee, but not for me
Armed minorities are harder to oppress.
Organized armed minorities make governments afraid.
Make no mistake, this is yet another message, “we do not care about you or your struggles”. Listen when they tell you they won’t protect you.
thats probably the reason why they were so afraid of the civil rights movement, especially with communism so fresh people might want to illict help from soviets.
Sounds like we need the Pink Panthers
Pink pistols?
Armed and gritty inspector Clouseau isn’t the worst idea for a reboot. Maybe because there’s been so many terrible reboots of other franchises.
Dude… he was fucking stabbed? That is assault with a deadly weapon and/or attempted murder/manslaughter at least.
Yes, but look at what they where wearing… Also that baby was being kinda a dick.
So we are allowed to stab people if there’s no cameras?
Billionaires don’t like this simple trick.
Neither do judges
just in case anyone thinks this is just about it being designated as a hate crime. No they did not charge anything despite this guy having massive injuries and the other guy having nothing to show for it. If you luigi, do it in arizona with no cameras:
But the county attorney’s office ultimately viewed the case as a “he said, he said” scenario, with Lawton claiming he acted in self-defense. According to the police report, Lawton told investigators that while slowing down the vehicle, he was “punched in the back of the head and on the side of his body so many times that he saw stars.”
No witnesses corroborated Lawton’s account, and it’s unclear how much the county attorney’s office leaned on his story. But without video footage of the attack—Uber allows drivers to install them but does not require it—the evidence collected would appear to focus heavily only on eye witnesses.
“I don’t understand how it could be deemed self-defense or why it was turned down,” Almaraz said. “I was unarmed, he had multiple weapons in the car—it just didn’t make any sense. It was heartbreaking. I was completely assaulted and violated. I could have lost my life.”
It should be noted that AZ self defense law requires you to use the same type of weapon as your attacker. For instance, if you shot someone attacking you with a bat, it would likely not be self defense.
It has been broadened recently since it used to require exactly the same weapon, so if someone was attacking you with an uzi, you couldn’t defend yourself with your shotgun. However I’m fairly certain it still won’t let you stab someone trying to fistfight you.
“punched in the back of the head and on the side of his body so many times that he saw stars.”
Surely there would be bruises or medical records if this were the case.
with Lawton claiming he acted in self-defense.
Ah, the gay panic defense.
Now not just for cops!
The left really needs to get over their weapon aversion. There’s no alternative anymore.
How well did that turn out for the black panthers?
Well, they did get gun regulations on the books…
You should probably look up Marx’s idea about workers arming themselves. The left has no issue with rming themselves, you’re thinking of liberals.
The left has no issue with rming themselves
The last decade of the left withdrawing to their own spheres of niche ideology-sub-spectrums has resulted in nobody, even the left themselves, really knowing what “the left” is for or against anymore on a broad level. This is why there’s so much infighting and disagreement and confusion about who believes in what, and of course all the endless purity testing and tribalism that comes with it. Some of this is because of deliberate social sabotage by paid agents, some of this is because of sociology and the nature of our brains. Either way it needs to be identified and understood as an obstacle to unified action.
I don’t give two shits what specific brand of marxism you believe in, or if you’re just a working liberal who wants things to go back to normal, or if you’re some deeply sheltered and naive pacifist who genuinely thinks we’re going to have some idealistic solarpunk future if we just did X, Y and Z. You all need to get armed and get prepared and probably do a lot of things you’re either emotionally or ideologically uncomfortable with. Such is the nature of conflict.
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Get armed. If firearms really scare the everloving shit out of you, or if you’ve already painted yourself in a corner by preaching against guns around your peers your whole life, then get a fucking crossbow, I do NOT care, as long as you have means to put holes in someone from a distance. At the very least, you need pepper spray, tasers and other personal defense items and you need to practice how they’re used and be ready to deal with multiple people who want to hurt you. Take self defense classes if you can.
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Get your shit together. If you’re unhealthy, depressed, or have a list of issues that are preventing you from doing X, Y and Z. Now is the time to get that shit managed. Get to a doctor while you can, if you can’t or they can’t help, then do the very best you can on your own as soon as you can. You’ve been putting off the changes you know you need to make, now is the wake-up alarm, time to do that hard thing you’ve been waiting for “the right time” to start on to get your life managed.
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Save money. Freeze your credit cards. Stop ordering fast food or doordash. Stop eating out altogether. Rice and beans motherfucker, do you speak it?? If you don’t know how to cook your own simple food at home, the only thing stopping you from learning how is your own motivation to type “How do I cook my own simple food at home?” into google and actually putting effort into it.
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Kill your vices. Related to above, I don’t care if the substance you do daily is completely harmless to you and something you claim is medicinal and helps you sleep/stay awake, you gotta start stepping it down and putting that cash under your mattress and finding alternatives. This isn’t about ethics or legality, this is about not spending your money on things you can live without even if the adjustment period will be hard. Again, now is the time to make those changes.
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Fix your attention span. It’s worse than you think and it’s preventing you from doing a lot of things you could be doing to make your life better and get healthier. If things get really, really bad, we need as many people as possible who can think clearly and analyze situations from many perspectives. We need people who have read books and can be patient and calm in the face of stress. If nothing else, you will have a better normal life if you don’t need to always have youtube videos of people reacting to tiktok videos playing on headphones before you can even read a work email.
If things somehow get better all around for everyone, then having done all this will only have made you and your life and outcomes better.
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Gotta get in that divisive jab. Can’t just say a thing.
…liberals are on the left. And I believe they’re talking about the ones in the states today, not in 1850, Germany.
If you think 3% differently than I, you=evil
Signed, -Lemmy
braces for the flood of messages about how evil I am
liberals in the United States support genocide, the kinda immigration reform Donald Trump has been enacting, and laissez-faire capitalism.
If it was only 3%, maybe. But American liberals are only 10% away from American conservatives, and are nowhere near the left.
ah yes. people who don’t think exactly like you are all monsters. I was so wrong.
Okay Hitler. The right amount to tolerate is 4%
thinking of liberals
The ones that enabled us into this mess.
But at least they saved us from universal healthcare and economic equity. Dodged a real bullet there.
Neoliberalism ruined America. Stole everything we had and gave it all to the rich and corporations. And for what? Line go up? Fucking idiots.
Look at that! A .ml commenting something critical about neoliberalism! Imagine that. It’s not something one sees often in .world since according to them, the mods and admins here are such big meanies that they nuke everything that even so much as leans progressive.
(the irony is that my comment here will probably get reported and removed, thus lending even more relevance to my point that the whiners at .ml are full of shit)
Are the liberals in the room with you right now?
Liberals are the left. You’re think of the far left. Essentially they are the left’s equivalent of the far right, just as obnoxious and every bit as easily conned by propaganda.
That’s liberals that don’t want people armed, mostly because they don’t like not being in control. Leftists are usually already armed.
Your country has 500,000,000 privately owned firearms and your solution is more?
I am not American. And the overwhelming majority of those 500 million weapons are with people that think Trump’s fascist America is cool.
Im broadly anti gun but i have reasoning and am not blind to their purpose.
The reality right now is that those weapons aren’t going anywhere, everything is heating up and nobody (including, increasingly, law enforcement) can be arbitrarily trusted.
So yes, as a last ditch hail mary attempt at self defense i’d recommend arming yourself because that is where the US is at.
Guess which political ideology holds the vast majority of them?
If we recall 4 years ago, one got shot, and the rest fled. Resolve without critical thinking is a mirage.
Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has been a rolling human rights disaster for years. It needs to be torn the fuck down.
Frankly sheriff’s offices in general need to be abolished. It’s a relic of the frontier colonial era and, surprise, they never gave up their power willingly. They often have the lowest training standards in the profession, and are the face of partisan politics in law enforcement, to the benefit of conservatives 99% of the time. A lot of the time I hear about some flagrant abuse of power from cops it’s from a sheriff’s deputy.
EDIT: doesn’t seem like the sheriffs were involved here, just the county prosecutor and Phoenix police. What you get from scrolling at work and not reading articles.
The sheriff’s office has managed to keep itself out of the news since Arpaio was defeated.
Doesn’t mean you’re wrong though. Your comment is still very relevant.
They often have the lowest training standards in the profession
Law enforcement isn’t a “profession.” Practitioners of real “professions,” such as medicine, law, and engineering, have “professed an oath” (that’s where the word comes from) to act in the public interest (i.e. to protect the public) and abide by a code of ethics. That includes things like acting against their own interests and refusing orders from people with power over them, if necessary. In contrast, the courts have ruled in Warren v. District of Columbia that law enforcement officers explicitly have no such obligation.
On one hand I like how the sheriff’s office decentralizes police power and gives the community a direct say. In the other hand that’s been a disaster
