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The whole ‘duh, everything is made of chemicals’ argument is a corporate attempt at downplaying the prevalence of unnecessary and even harmful additives in US foods that have long been banned in the EU.
Next time you see a meme about a woman asking ‘is this ham processed?’ with a response ridiculing her about it, look up Ractopmine.
Everything is made of chemicals.
So we were talking in the car the other day about how yeast is alive (until it isn’t). How do vegans feel about yeast? Honestly asking; I don’t know any vegans irl that I can ask.
It’s not a question of “Is it alive?”, but rather “Is it capable of suffering?”.
Since it’s a fungus, I would expect there is no issue, just like eating any other mushroom. Plants are alive too; that’s not the important category from a vegan perspective, I’d expect.
That is rather kingdom-ish of them them. I will eat things in these 3 kingdoms, but not these 2. There must be more to it, but I also no little about veganism.
Veganism is about not viewing animals as a product. It’s about taking a moral and ethical stance against the animal industry.
Plants and fungi are vastly different from animals in behavior, looks, genetics, etc. You’re creating a strawman argument here.
I was trying to be funny, not argue.
Sorry.
There are loads of different reasons that people become vegan. Some of those reasons might include not wanting to harm any living being, and if that’s the reason then yeah it is a little arbitrary to draw the line at plants or types of plant-life, but I’m not sure it’s really fair to place the expectations that vegans do not make any arbitrary choices like that.
Everybody sets those kinds of boundaries and makes those kinds of choices all the time, because it would be very hard not to, and I think making an honest attempt to reduce the harm you do to living beings is better than nothing 🤷♂️
That being said, I’m not vegan.
I’m pretty sure most of everything you could possibly ever eat (even “chemicals”) comes from something alive, so the alternative would be starvation.
if it’s not made from animals, plants or fungi then from single celled organisms like bacteria and slime mold.
and veganism isn’t just a blind disagreement with eating one kingdom of biology, it’s a means to reduce harm, suffering, exploitation and killing. of course other kingdoms are alive, and in case we make it and sometime in the future we can somehow find viable, plentiful, cheap dead sources of all our nutrients there might be people who want to switch to those exclusively, but right now i think it’s a fairly measured movement.
Basically what a vegan explained when I asked the same
I mean, plants are alive as well
tell me one food that isn’t made of chemicals
What, you aren’t on the dark matter diet yet?
Is sunlight considered plant food? Also there are fungi that feed on ionizing radiation.
🎶 Now you can eat sunlight! 🎵
Sugar? It’s made of chemical.
Imaginary corn.
Is the Glow Cloud vegan?
Oreos are technically vegan. You’re welcome.
As are potatoes. Even if you quarter them, spray them with oil, add a few seasons, and air fry them for 15 minutes. Still vegan.
Also Nutter Butters and Marizpan Ritter Sport.
I read last year that they were changing the recipe to include fucking powdered milk (the most annoying ingredient). I don’t know if that was planned for the future or just incorrect speculation, because I can’t find anything about it now.
We used to call them “accidentally vegan”
Dear vegan 2, that is true for everything.
Dihydrogen monoxide
Hydrogen hydroxide
That stuff can kill you in minutes
It’s got the highest pH rating of any acid we know of.
Get thee behind me, Satan, I shan’t drink your hellish brew!
All kinds of weird shit you’d think would be vegan aren’t… like some brands of white sugar (bone char) and some beers (isinglass [fish swim bladders]). And there’s always our good friend with a million names, cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120, aka bugs that make your food red.
Beer is safe here in Germany! :D We’ve got a thing called “Deutsches Reinheitsgebot”/“The German Law of Purity”, that prohibits the use of anything but water, barley, hops and yeast in making beer. So the beer itself is always vegan, you just have to watch out for little dumb stuff like the brand Bitburger using Milk-based glue for the labels on their glass beer bottles.
That is not true.
Filtrate medium is not considered to be an ingredient, nor are additives that are removed by filtration except for technically impossible residue. This most notably includes PVPP as a coagulation agents to remove polyphenols which otherwise could help in the formation of haze when the beer is stored improperly or over longer times.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinylpolypyrrolidone
So no, beer in Germany does not have to be vegan by default.
They sneak gelatin into so many things too. One that got me for a year or two after I went vegetarian was Altoids. I liked to keep em in my car to have something to munch/occupy myself while driving, and never even thought to check the ingredients. How could mints have animal in em? Turns out they have gelatin! I honestly never miss meat or anything, but I do miss gelatin to a degree. Not because I want gelatin in particular, but it’s in so many tasty things, and vegetarian gummies and the like are always so expensive ;_;
Also milk powder and whey - there’s so many god damn chips where you go “why the fuck does that need milk powder?”
i was about to recommend katyes, because they are great and cost like 1€ a bag in local stores, but apparently, thats 5€ on amazon (fuck amazon), so unless u can get them locally, thats not exactly a good option :<
Damn, I didn’t know about the sugar and beer. Guess i gotta look up what I’m drinking
This will help
But yeah beer is weird. Some places use some weird shit as filtering agents
Thanks :)
You can’t feed that to your cat. It’s vegan chemicals
