Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ
Reddit is so wild now, man. I got a three day site-wide ban for commenting on a LAMF thread about Mitch McConnell not liking the direction of the Republican party now even though he was one of the architects. My comment agreed. Apparently I was harassing Mitch McConnell.
Why can a mod in one subreddit ban someone from the whole site?
Haven’t been to Tennessee, I went to Louisville Kentucky, I hated it there. It was like going back in time, all white people in suits, the only black person was homeless. The homeless guy was moving place to place so shop owners wouldn’t have time to harass him. Nothing like a fancy meal in a high class restaurant full of well off white dudes and a homeless black guy outside the window.
I mean, Tennessee is as red as you can get. Except maybe Nashville.
Memphis checking in…
Reddit mod moment ☕
I’ve checked the Tennessee subreddit and it doesn’t seem very active. The first post is 17h old and about the special election. The news article that was posted, is not positive for the republican party. The reddit comments are overwhelmingly against Van Epps. The post itself was posted by a mod. https://old.reddit.com/r/Tennessee/comments/1pajj2w/tennessee_congressional_race_becomes_unlikely/
This doesn’t look like a rightwing echo chamber to me. Maybe the outsider that was calling for action, was removed because they take their rule about removing agitators seriously. Imo there may still be a problem of too strict modding, because of how inactive the subreddit looks.
Obligatory fuck reddit comment
And what about /c/Tennessee on here?
No outside political agitators (This is a broad one, but if we look at your post history and all you do is spam geographical subs stirring the political cauldron we will remove your post and ban you from this sub)
The lesson on Reddit (if you still use that platform) is to hide your history. I’m guessing they used this rule for the ban. Bans from subs should exclusively be for content posted on that sub. If something is bad enough to warrant a sitewide ban, that is another matter.
Anyhow, there are is another post about the election: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tennessee/comments/1p36q6s/millions_pour_into_tennessee_special_election/
This raises the question: Is there somebody else on that sub posting about the special election? There should be enough Tennesseans that at least one of them should post there.
Blue dots in a sea of red. I’m in a similar political geography and you see a similar pattern.
I’m sure there’s been quite a few posts, but they just don’t last.
Reddit is sort of dead.
You are guessing, but they already said why, so we have no need to guess.
Reddit sucks? Gosh, next you’re going to tell me Twitter and Facebook are bad, too!
Twitter and Facebook are bad as well.
Ask a question or express an opinion that goes against the group think on .ml
Lemmy is worse than Reddit because it thinks it’s pure but it isn’t.
i dunno it’s pure batshit most days
Lmao reddit mods love sucking nazi cock
They got rid of all of us mods who didn’t bow and kiss the ring and the star.
Now all that’s left is the worst of the mods.
What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent
ChineseThai meal?We know how they source and process their chicken…
From
The start page of the internet
To:
this tiny little corner on the internet
Reddit sure has come far
At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now
Front page, I believe was what they called themselves. But yeah, it’s been a glorious fall.
Taking the Facebook and Twitter route
Fuck reddit, and fuck censorship.
Lets be clear though, reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags.
Lemmy has plenty of shitty moderation too, and arguably is worse at dealing with it within any given instance due to the lack of proper mod tools, the way posts that are deleted remove entire comment sections from being accessible, the lack of any appeals system and I’m sure a few other things I don’t remember off the top of my head.
Its a people problem, and its a style of organization problem with this style of forum.
Lemmy has plenty of shitty moderation too
Oh absolutely. Not long after I created my account, I saw an obvious spam post on All, I downvoted it and went about my day. Turns out I was banned from that community because of that downvote. I asked why and was told that because I downvoted a post in a community I wasn’t subbed to, I was banned for “brigading” even though it was a spam post. I wonder if I had upvoted despite not being a community member if I would have been banned?
More recently, I reported a comment for a common ableist slur (against someone else, not me), and the reply to the report was “doesn’t break the community rules and also we agree with the guy who said it”. I looked up their community rules and they specifically say all opinions are welcome and not to attack or harass others, which I would presume calling someone the “R” word for having an opinion would violate both tenets of that rule set. Nope, they support garbage like that despite what their rules say, so I told them to please ban me.
reddit is only worse than lemmy because it is centralized by one group of douchebags
That’s a really big distinguishing factor though. When a group gets “too big to fail,” it becomes a problem by giving said group too much control. Look at the genocide apologist mods on /r/worldnews .
The de-centralization / fragmentation of Lemmy is an important check against bad moderation.
You absolutely bring up good points yes, but at the same time, I don’t think its a check, so much as a mild mitigation. Even on the lemmy verse there are still mega subs that take on the most activity and gain similar types of “too big to fail” critical user bases.
The core problem, is that when a group gains disproportionate control over what users can see, they can push their views/twist arms, and that ultimately isn’t solved here.
and its a style of organization problem with this style of forum.
Which lemmy mitigates by being decentralized.
I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.
Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation, as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.
as well as a modlog that keeps mods somewhat accountable and let’s people see what is being censored.
I’m not sure if this is still true, but you can get around that though if you ban the person before removing the comment. Also, some communities have a delay on showing what’s been removed.
I agree. Lemmy has a ton of awful moderators that abuse their power just to support “their” viewpoint.
Indeed. Famously the elephant in the room of the ml instance where they’re gone so far off the deep end on a lot of topics that they end up in essence supporting extremist conservative views/human rights abuses and worse. This is either with direct support with the weird straight up dictatorship praises many sing, being so toxic and hard to talk to that they push people away (who I hope know they certainly aren’t the average left leaning person) or the awful thing many do where they feel any incremental positive change is bad, and the only good change is a magic overnight revolution and shift to 100% exactly their view of how society should work, that they’ll also never spell out.
Lemmy is better though because it at least has the potential for people to have better moderation
In some ways yes, in some ways the opposite (as mentioned with the lack of tools).
Regarding the modlog, maybe I am missing something, but when things are deleted here, its actually a little bit worse than reddit sometimes in that you won’t be able to immediately see the content that was deleted of yours, and then for mod logs, I believe (As I am not 100% sure) that comment removals disappear when the user who made the comment is banned as well, so its kinda false transparency.
The mod of a fascist sub about a fascist state of a fascist country on a fascist website is behaving like fascist? I’m shocked.
I dunno why, can’t really put my finger on it, but I have this slight hunch that it might be related to fascism in some way.
So what you’re saying is that it’s a small corner of the Internet problem eh? ;)
Basically all the local subreddits have right-wing mods and a cadre of incels that try to drive the conversation constantly towards minorities who commit crimes
