It doesn’t even necessarily matter what she was or wasn’t. It’s kind of irrelevant.
She tried to wave a car by, like we’ve all done a million times, then two MASKED MEN got out of their UNMARKED TRUCK holding GUNS and one tried to REACH INTO HER VEHICLE TO OPEN THE DOOR.
The fuck would you do?
They weren’t there for her. They had no reason to interact with her.
She could have had a rap sheet a mile long, doesn’t matter.
Also a third masked man, from the same truck, TOLD HER to move her car out of the way
Yeah this point keeps getting glossed over.
Just like poor George Floyd
Who cares if she was an activist. Nothing what happened that day merits an execution.
The administration is characterizing her as an activist and an agitator, in order to try to retroactively justify her killing.
This story is putting the lie to that statement.
Our problem is the mainstream media that most of America gets their news and information from are all bought by the same donor-class that owns the government, and they are RIGHT NOW having “experts” on the daytime talk shows and news programs telling viewers that Good struck an agent with her car and that “maybe” “some” of the gunshots to her head were unnecessary but that more investigation is needed.
Do not trust that people will use their eyes. People don’t see with their eyes. All of our perceptions of the world are filtered through our feelings, and for most people, it feels too inconvenient to believe this horrendous act was what it actually was, because that would mean having to do something, having to sacrifice time and energy to get involved, to seek justice.
Nobody wants to do that anymore. People want to hide inside and scroll.
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Fully agree. Even if she wpuld have been an activist fleeing from the place.
Your instinct should not be to murder the person.
In any other countries, there are warning shots fired first, then they shoot at the wheels, then they try to detain the car by using own cars. There is no way the right thing to do is to murder someone in the head as a first response.
Your instinct should not be to murder the person.
It wasn’t instinct, it was orders. They are pissed that vehicle blocking is working, and giving targets a longer head start to run. They wanted to send a message, so they were ordered to engineer a situation, then escalate it, and here we are.
As usual, these Dumb Apes fuck up everything they do, and they botched the operation, and sent an entirely different message, which was not received well by America.
So who sent these illegal orders? How far up the chain? I think we all know.
btw, i’m not even sure she was trying to block anyone. in one video, you can see she waves and says “go around!” i think she was just trying to go the other way.
edit - i don’t know that that is what happened, just that there’s now footage from the agent’s phone. can’t really use audio at work.
still saw NOTHING justifying murder.
Yeah the right to be an activist is one of our most foundational rights as Americans.
incorrect
the murderer who puts himself in harm’s way, got out of that way, and then pulled a gun and shot a woman in the face, that deserves execution
According to the “expert” they had on Good Morning America, the ICE agent was “struck” by Good’s vehicle, but it’s actually only the second and third gunshots to this innocent woman’s head that were not justified.
I hope you all have a high tolerance for rage-inducing injustice, because this is going to be one of those “Don’t Look Up” moments where half the world is told to just LOOK AT THE FUCKING VIDEO and people will ignore you and form movements to NOT look at the video.
I have no perscription or advice how to deal with this. But I do know it’s going to get a LOT worse before it starts to get better and we may not all see that day.
Hopefully the only way it gets worse will be a bunch of people getting together to do things like this. Oh darn, apparently mods deleted it. But it was a logical comment that proposed a logical solution.
Fun Fact, if you hit the drop-down by the breadcrumbs under a username you can read a user’s moderation history and see what they said that got removed 🤓
While morally I cannot agree with the take, I would LOVE to see people even halfway motivated to take their marches directly to the seats of power. There are only a couple dozen thousand ICE agents in the whole country, we outnumber them by MILLIONS and could literally drag them off the streets, pull off their gear and tie them up and like, stash them in our basements with a bike lock around the neck Breaking Bad style and stop the injustice tomorrow if we all unified. (We feed them sandwiches on plastic plates though, lesson learned.)
Mmm sandwiches you say? You’re almost makin’ me want to join ice 😋
I will only feed my agent cheap ass bologna with too much mustard and a single, small wilted lettuce leaf.
Ok nevermind. I don’t wanna be an ICEman anymore.
I was out with some casual friends last night, the topic of the shooting came up. I was sickened listening to them talking about how she was at fault for putting herself in harms way, how she was asking for it by trying to run down law enforcement who are “just doing their job.”
We’re completely fucked, most of the public just laps up whatever bullshit they are fed and do not spend one second critically thinking about anything. They just accept that 2000 masked and armed federal agents decending on our neighborhoods and shooting people in the fucking face is a normal thing and they save their anger for the people they are crushing under their boots.
That’s really disheartening to hear. We need to keep hammering home that this is not normal to all our friends And family. People are understandably scared, and not everyone is as plugged in to reality. Sometimes they accept the narrative out of fear, they want to believe that if they behave and follow the rules they won’t be shot in the face as well.
The good news is that you can only ignore reality for so long before it comes stomping down your door. The bad news is at that point it might be too late for any of us.
I am choosing to remain hopeful that these people will not get away with this. This regime is incompetent, and there are many people pushing back against them everywhere.
I argued very forcefully against everythign they had to say; I even got an apology from one of them, but I don’t think I ultimately changed any minds. It’s just so much easier for people to believe that the victims are at fault, it lets them feel superior, safe, etc.
I have not brought any of this up with my kids, but my 5th grader came home in tears yesterday because he’s afraid of ICE now. This is not ok. Our government is terrorizing it’s citizens and most people seem to love the fear.
Well hopefully you made them go home and think at least, instead of just reassuring themselves and moving on until the next tragedy happens.
I can’t even think of what we should tell our kids. It’s impossible to say it’s going to be alright, and mean it right now. I’m sorry your fifth grader is so scared. Luckily my little girl is only 3 so she doesn’t see anything yet. I’m going to protect her from that for as long as I can.
Yes, the fear and anger is addictive. It’s why reality TV shows are so popular, it’s why outrageousness in the news headlines are par for the course. Americans are so very disconnected from real life and have been for a long time. Issues across the world barely register on the average American radar. It’s become a deeply unhealthy culture and I don’t know how your country is going to survive this.
most people seem to love the fear.
No, only conservatives, who voted for this to happen to our country. And they represent about 30% of the populace.
Still WAY too high of a percentage of mentally ill people.
I disagree, it’s not just a conserviative problem; there’s an authoritarian problem that straddles both sides. I think the left is less susceptible to it, but it’s there. I know plenty of “lliberals” who accept things uncritically as well, and plenty who are perfectly happy submitting to any authority.
I have “liberal” relatives who argue to this day that it’s all just politics, and that biden was worse because he forced masks.
Indeed, democrats are pushing internet surveillance and censorship as we speak. Both major American parties want to control you (they’re both funded by the same people so no surprise).
Your dipshit casual friends, whom you need to dump immediately, clearly haven’t watched the entire video, or are entirely comfortable blatantly lying about it.
The video is clear. She starts to pull out, realizes there’s oncoming traffic, then waves at them to pass, then two masked men exit the unmarked pickup truck brandishing weapons and one tries to reach into her car to open the door. So she took off like anyone in their right mind would when two randos with guns try to pull you out of your car.
Your casual friends are bad people. Stop interacting with them.
again, these are co-workers, and this was the first indication I got from them about this sort of opinion. I’m not besties with these people, but do need to professionally interact with them.
The point is more that this is in idication of how typical americans feel these days. These are as ‘normal’ of people as I know; all my friends run in lefty circles and are well informed, so not typical american normies. I was just taken aback that otherwise normal, functional people could see things that way. I shouldn’t be surprised, just the week prior I heard so many people accept that fucking bullshit daycare story without a moment’s critical thought about it. It doesn’t matter that the centers accused in the video have been exonerated, it doesn’t matter that there has been ongoing investigations and prosecutions as a result. People hear something that triggers them and they just shut off their brain.
That’s what we’re against, I don’t even think the assholes doing this are the biggest problem we have, I think the biggest issue is the apathaty and stupidity of the masses.
Yeah I stopped being friends with such people. Lack of brain capacity is a big turn off
These are work friends, so can’t get away from them. I am working on finding a new job though.
Did you try to correct the lies they had been fed?
I did, not sure how many minds I changed. https://awful.systems/post/6867430/9998651
Even one changed mind is better than leaving the lies and bullshit unchallenged.
What’s up with that link?
D’’oh, meant to paste a quote, must have had a url in my clipboard. Thanks for the heads up.
You can, and should, stop talking to them. Especially outside of work. You should not be going out with people like this. They wish harm on others for no reason.
The point isn’t these specific “friends”, the point is, these are what I would consider normal, average people. These are coworkers, some of who I know to be otherwise good and rational people. I honestly would not think that normal people would react with such deference to authority.
Of course this will inform every interaction I have with them from here, but again, the point is, these folks represent the person next to you in line at the grocery store, the person you wave through traffic at a stop sign, the person delivering your amazon packages.
It’s not just lack of brain capacity. Some of the nicest people I’ve ever met in my life were mentally handicapped.
These people are actively malicious. They want to hurt others.
Yeah, the only way to stay somewhat sane now is to block the MAGA people. They are exhausting with their propaganda and lies 24/7.
If those are your friends, I’m sorry for you, there’s actual decent and smart people out there, don’t give these goons your time, even if it makes you lonely, it’s just enabling their shit if you go along with it
You know, if being opposed to masked government murderers stalking your neighborhood makes you an “activist” then we need to ask some serious questions about the state of “journalism” these days.
Journalism? In America?
Nah, dawg.
Yeah the nazi’s on my local nextdoor keep calling her a “paid anti-ice demostrator” or that she is a paid antifa actress or some BS.
They refuse to use their eyes and ears and just stay in their fantasy land of unseasoned meals and fox news.
They are evil and stupid, there’s not much else to say, they welcome violence because they can’t do anything else that makes any difference with their miserable lives
Her ex-husband said “she was a loving mother and poet who had just dropped her young son off at school”
Her mother called her “one of the kindest people I’ve ever known.” Vice President JD Vance said she was part of “a broader left-wing network to attack and to doxx and to assault and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their jobs.”It’s not out of character for kind loving mothers to be antifascist.
It’s also Vance talking out his ass. This administration completely 1984’s everything at this point and Big Brother tells you what they want your reality to be.
I wish she was part of a broader left-wing network, because if she had been, maybe there would have been others around to protect her and she would still be alive
We all need to start building resistance communities, encouraging solidarity across the working class, and getting organized in our communities.
Build networks of group chats and groups on social media to rapidly share information and educate people.
How does her ex-husband know what she was doing that day?
What kind of monster just drops her kid off at school like it’s a normal day, and then goes out and just runs over good law enforcement officers who are just trying to keep us safe from people with accents and weird food?
*good food
“Good was new to the area”
She didn’t know the area, had just dropped her kid off at school, got caught up by the Gestapo, got (rightfully) scared, tried to swerve around it all…and then got shot in the head three times.
Oh, and they’ve found out the guys name who did it btw.Jonathan Ross.
Everyone should know.
Who would have thought that giving a bunch of barely literate bigots guns, and telling them they can do anything they want without consequences, would lead to one of those power tripping bigots murdering somebody for absolutely no fucking reason?
This was totally unforeseeable.
If ya’ll are hoping “this is it” and that we’re going to see any kind of justice, I’m sorry to tell you that this will also blow over after you read and hear some of the most vile, lying bullshit you can imagine.
I mean, unless everyone actually does something, but half of this country is still to scared to piss off the other half.
I’m really tired of this attitude.
School? you mean INSTITUTION OF WOKE INDOCTRINATION.
To be fair, the chances of getting shot in the school was also pretty high
ORGANIZE PROTEST STRIKES IN ALL WORKPLACES!!! FIGHT THIS TERROR WITH UNITY!!! DEMAND THE IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THE ARRESTED PEOPLE!!! DEMAND THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ICE AND THIS GOV !!!
STRIKE!!! STRIKE!!! STRIKE!!!
Bring the entire economy of AMERICA to a standstill for one day:
the shipyards, factories, workshops, offices and banks, municipal services, and public works!!MAKE YOUR DEMANDS CLEAR EVERYWHERE: FORCE THE ICE SCUM OUT, IMPEACH TRUMP, PUT HIM IN JAIL, AND BREAK THE STRANGLEHOLD OF BILLIONAIRE (TECH) POWER OVER OUR GOV, TAX THE RICH, FAIR WAGES AND NATIONAL HEALTHCARE!!!
STAND UNITED!! BE COURAGEOUS!! FIGHT PROUDLY FOR THE LIBERATION OF OUR COUNTRY!!!
Friends: Pass this manifesto on after reading it.I already started my strike, in that i don’t buy from corporations, don’t pay rent to one, and don’t work for one, but where can we go to organize a strike on a mass scale? So far I’ve found two really good ones…
And “workers strike back”
Are there any others?
Don’t forget to set up strike funds for yourself and perhaps those in need!
You first.
I will, if you follow me
Collective action only works collectively. No one can do it alone. You’re right to point that out. But instead of saying “you first”, we need to be saying “how can we achieve this together?”
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That would be actually a very effective demonstration. Like what would they do? Shooting around and kill civis and ICE solders?
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Nothing will get done until the US deprograms itself thinking that things like Civil Wars are started by the Confederate side, that the US is indivisible (ask the colonies what they would have thought about that), or that the only people who obsess about the founding principles and the constitution, one that is now being ignored and just treated like an interpretive piece of art work like the bible, are only those Conservative guys. You’ve slowly been programmed into equally abusable extremes.
If the unconstitutionality and flagrant abuse of the current government isn’t enough to get states to begin planning their own opposition cohesively, nothing is going to stop this, and that’s where this is heading. In a government where the two most powerful branches, the Executive and the Judicial, are completely corrupt, when the turnover in federal agencies has been almost absolute, where the Executive constantly ignores and bypasses legislation from the Legislative branch, hoping for a majority in what is only a part of the legislative is not going to work out. Even if they had the entire Legislative, it would not work out. It’s the now completely corrupt federal agencies the ones who would be in charge of any attempts at impeachment. It’s sad to see the entire opposition get led by such a pale example of a carrot because the alternative might require something more than career politicians from the old class oligarchy.
All of this stuff you are talking about is a bunch of magic paper the ruling elite tricked us all into believing actually means something.
Law, rules, regulations, it all means nothing in the face of power. It’s a LARP.
We need to shake ourselves out of our fantastical daydream and start building a real people-powered movement. Our only strength is in our numbers.
Institutions are against us. They are the tools of our oppressors. Wake up.
People who want to overthrow a flawed system instead of reforming are the same sort of people who throw away anything at the slightest sign of imperfection. When will you realize that perfection is subjective and that what you are really doing is appealing to your own definition of what qualifies as a “real people-powered movement”.
Law, rules, regulations, it all means nothing in the face of power. It’s a LARP.
Funny how you seem to spout the same thing Trump believes. Seems to me the problem is the people treating it as just LARP. Get back to me when you have something more than one liners to replace the libraries full of laws, rules, and regulations you want to throw away. Meanwhile, reforming a flawed system is a more realistic system than a way of thinking infamous for generally devolving into authoritarian regimes and failed states.
Wake up, you are the other side of the same coin propping up Trump.
No, you don’t get it. I wish the laws exist, but they don’t. This situation is more desperate than you want to believe.
I don’t want to throw anything away, I just want you to realise that the comfort and security you feel from being a nation of laws is an illusion, if it ever held any, it’s all gone now.
You are witnessing the rise of the new Nazi state.
