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  • Fred R.@lemmy.ml
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    Substance of the video aside, does anyone know this group’s relationship with the actual historical Panthers? My understanding was that the original Panthers were dissolved at some point?

    I don’t think this calls their legitimacy/validity into question, I’m mostly just curious.

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      There are a number of modern panthers orgs that claim to represent a continuation of the historic panthers. Though they range from actual Maoist Communists to weird Black Israelite types

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    Fuck yeah! More of this please!

    Any other organizations doing this? I’ll help.

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    They will come for their leadership just like they did in the 60’s. I hope they are prepared.

    RIP Chairman Hampton.

    This is how civil war starts and how fascism will be defeated.

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      The way ICEtapo operates right now doesn’t leave them much room for escalation, they’re already cranked fascism up to eleven. They will come for everyone sooner or later unless stopped. There is still hope that it can be done legislatively, but I don’t have a lot of faith in Americans anymore.

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        You can’t actually believe that though? 11 would be ICE shooting protesters on sight. Not much room for escalation? What are you talking about?

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          They already kind of doing almost that. The step above would be actual drive by shooting, and the final step is full on dystopia with torment nexus and all. There is room for escalation, sure, but once your government backed paramilitary group starts disregarding laws, there is not a lot of that room left

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        This is fascism at an 8. You wanna see fascism at 11, ask anyone from South Africa what that really looks like. Do you know what a hippo is?

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          Once paramilitary organisation is given full permission to do whatever they want regardless of the law, that’s kind of it, really. Do they throw people into hippo dens, throw them out of helicopters, put them into gas chambers, or just shoot in the face, are gruesome details for future historians and hopefuly-not-so-future-judges to study.

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      Democracy is the government of the people for the people by the people. But the people are retarded.

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    I’m not American, but as an outsider this is what I feel the second amendment was really for ✊

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      It literally specifies in our constitution that we have the second amendment to protect ourselves from our own tyrannical government. This type of thing is exactly what it’s for.

      • That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

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          Jefferson: “This government will become corrupt and need to be overthrown as well, but hopefully it will hold up for, oh, 250 years or so.”

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    Everyone who has a gun and open carry laws should be coming to their protest visibly armed.

    And stand in the front.

    Mutually-assured destruction is the only path forward.

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    Black Panthers owe those lukewarm libs who did absolutely nothing for them ever nothing.

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    When the Black Panthers started protecting citizens in California back in the 60s and 70s, the Republicans all of a sudden got really on-board with gun restrictions. Funny how that works.

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        that is genuinely how gun control works here. our government makes sure white terrorists have as many guns as they want, but that the people they are terrorizing don’t have the means to protect themselves

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    Black Americans are the only demographic that massively voted against the pedonald. They are responsible of almost everything americans takes pride in. In music, they invented blues, rock, jazz, techo, hip-hop and much more. In sports, they are the top athletes in many disciplines. In politics, you may not be a fan of Obama’s politics overall, but he was by far the least crazy president USA had over the past 40 years. All of this while being treated as sub-citizens.

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        Appalachian folk music, even. The sing-along traditions of Irish and Scottish settlers in the region melded with the Instrumentation of black music.

        When runaway slaves would flee into the mountains, they brought their drums and banjos with them.

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          and we still sing those songs. and people who know what the fuck they’re about sing them with the perspective of “i still remember that you are my neighbor and friend. our time of separation will not be forever”

          Appalachia has always been a coalition of rejects just trying to survive. the daughters of the confederacy have corrupted many communities into misunderstanding their local history. but my homeland cannot be free until every Black person is free, regardless of where they are or where they’re from.

          True Rednecks, the kind that understand that the red bandana represents a coalition of Native Americans, Black people, and white working class folk, are the future of Appalachia. it’s just a lot of people aren’t knowing that yet.

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            Just to piggy back off of this, I want to recommend a really wonderful book called What You’re Getting Wrong About Appalachia by Elizabeth Catte

            It’s an introduction to the region, its history and culture, and its highly extractive relationship to the rest of the United States.

            There’s also a whole chapter dedicated to ripping JD Vance’s Hillbilly Elegy to shreds, which is incredibly satisfying

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      For techno, who you must be referring to is “The Belleville Three”; but they actually got their inspiration from a German band called “Kraftwerk” that was making techno music.

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        I was indeed thinking of the Detroit school (this city is something else when it comes to music). I’m actually a huge Kraftwerk fan (Trans-Europe Express man, what an album) but although they’re definitely pioneers and inspiration of almost every electronic music genre, I wouldn’t qualify them as techno artists. They’re more a synth-pop / kraut/experimental band, with a lot a vocals and usually slower tempo than proper techno. Same goes with house music, I always thought it was a German thing, but it’s actually another Black American subgenre born in Chicago.

        That said, if we really want to go back to the origin of electronic music and instruments, we would be in Germany (sound synthesis) and France (sampling) in the 50s and 60s with the work the elctroacoustic / musique concrete composers like Stockhausen and Pierre Henry (check out Messe pour le Temps Présent, absolut classic). I am totally passionate by all this and actually teach in music history and sound creation at a College in Montreal.

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          am totally passionate by all this and actually teach in music history and sound creation at a College in Montreal.

          Then why did you credit black americans for techno?
          Also, africans are generally better at sports, not just americans.
          Least crazy… yeah i’ll give you that one. Still a US president though.

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        So on a comment about the things black Americans have given us your first thought is “Kraftwerk, some white guys, actually invented techno.” Which is factually untrue. Yes, Kraftwerk and other Kraut rock bands were an inspiration to all forms of electronic music but what they were doing was not at all techno.

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        Philly in the state known as Pennsyltucky, where historically, they had the biggest KKK organization in America.

        Philly is extremely diverse, with black folk in all levels of politics. Police still wear crosses. But Philly also has a lot of punk and fuck you energy.

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          I hung out with a guy online from Philly for a couple years. He was blue collar, laid tile. Union. Brother was a police officer. Other brother was military stationed in Japan. Father also in the union.

          He was edgy at first, but became a lot more willing to show his true colors. After a while, it became evident that while he would never admit to being MAGA, he would repeat MAGA talking points all the time. Eventually we got into it and stopped hanging out.

          He only had bad things to say about POC and Philly. Talked about the fentanyl issue, would clench his teeth talking about POC, had a pistol and would go for it every time he saw someone suspicious on his home camera when it was just someone walking by or parking their car. Absolutely unhinged. His family reinforced his beliefs, and they were even more racist than he was.

          Anyway, my anecdote is just to say that these blue collar guys from the burbs of major cities are dangerous, hateful, and often violent people. They blame minorities for everything wrong with the city.