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      yeah always funny. The main achivement they got was grpd and ubs c on iphone. You dont build an empire base on thoses.

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    The Jedi were neoliberal losers that allowed fascists come to power and cared not for the extreme poverty going on beneath their feet of Coruscant, so yeah putting the blue lightsaber in Europe’s hands is accurate.

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    LMFAO. This meme makes me second-hand embarrassed for Europeans. For 3 reasons.

    First, it is politically illiterate and whoever made it is clearly not a serious person.

    Second, pretending you’re in Star Wars? Really?

    Third, you have not and will never be the ‘good guys’ in any sort of fight, as long as you are a union of capitalist nations still feasting off of the stolen wealth of the global south.

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    Since Epstein was very clearly Mossad and the United States politicians are being blackmailed and bribed by Israeli intelligence I kinda feel like this should be included in the enemy lineup. Although Is china really an enemy of Europe?

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          No, it’s a major military operations base which gives it a lot of political power but the master letting go of the leash doesn’t mean they have lost control of their attack dog. They’re just letting them loose, one whistle and they’re brought to heel.

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            Do good dogs usually blackmail their masters with trafficked children? It seems to me that Israel who has universal healthcare, free college, a $400 monthly payment per child until they are 18, unlimited money for weapons and 53 million a year to bribe US politicians is perhaps rogue AF. We have major military bases all over and NOBODY gets the red carpet that the country that just happens to be blackmailing our politicians with trafficked children gets….must be a coincidence https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

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              AIPAC is one of many lobby groups, to say that pissrael controls the US through AIPAC is like saying that the coal industrialists control the US, or the MIC contractors run the US, or the myriad other monied interests influencing politicians through bribery, blackmail whatever.

              None of them “control” the US, all of them together are the US. If, or rather when, the zionist project is no longer profitable the other interests will no longer have room for it and the US will drop it.

              Some have more influence than the others, sure, but I wouldn’t put AIPAC on the same level as Wall Street or Lockheed Martin and Boeing and co. In many regards AIPAC is actually a lobby for those groups since Pissrael is such a profitable project for them.

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              And yet, what can Israel do without the material support of the country that makes its domestic weapons production capabilities possible? What can Israel do without the country that supplies its Iron Dome system? What can Israel do without CENTCOM? Without the power of the US dollar being maintained? Without Europe being greased up to act as one imperialist unit together with the US? Without US control of oil trade? Without US rigging of international institutions?

              Can one meaningfully ever “control” someone that has that much leverage over them?

              You’re flattering yourself if you think the politicians of the US need to be blackmailed to carry out the material interest of the capitalist ruling class. They won’t pay attention to you even if they stop cheating on you with Israel, their main girl is capital.

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                American politicians are treasonous traitors but Jokes on you because Europe is Israel’s bitch too.,

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    Europe is america and israel’s bitch.

    The image should be a dog on Vader’s leash.

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      Europe has a lot of good food, but the tendency is that it’s concentrated towards the south - Italy, France, Greece, etc. The food generally gets worse the further north you get, but every national cuisine usually has at least one good thing. Even Sweden probably has a good dish.

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    Ah Europe famous for colonization, slave trade, racism, the literal nazis being the good guys?

    Y’all I’m an American and fuck my country and fuck the current Russian state but fuck Europe even more tbh.

    Also what are you hating on China for? Guess that’s European racism again.

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        Ok you can same the about people.

        But say you and I and 3 other people are in a room.

        We find out one is an active serial killer another a serial rapist and you find out another had stolen $1000 from his own mother for a drug problem. If I make a judgment like " hey dude fuck that serial rapist and that serial killer. " And your response is “you have to accept that everybody does bad stuff”. That would be just as asinine. Just because nobody’s perfect and no institution is perfect. Does not mean you cannot make judgments about which one is morally better than another.

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      The only thing Europe did wrong was causing the fall of Rome. Everything that came after that was just a consequence.

      Rise again, Italy, and claim what is yours. The world.

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      Yeah can’t let go of the past, im still mad about the bacteria that killed my ancestor before we evolved out of the ocean

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        Europe still practices neocolonialism and imperialism. Hell, Australia and other European settler-colonies still exist.

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            Read up on local decolonial movements, and listen to what they have to say and are advocating for. Read up on settler-colonialism, Fanon is an excellent writer.

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        A bunch of African countries just threw off French colonial control like, three years ago, and are still being vilified for it. This shit is extremely current and you’re acting like a smug prick

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        What a brain dead and privileged take. Exactly how long are people allowed to be upset for? Would you say that shit to a holocaust survivor.

        White people smh

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        Europe is profitting off child slavery and other horrible shit worldwide. This isn’t a thing of the past only, and being dismissive like this is beyond disrespectful to the many victims of capitalism.

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    Idiots. The world should be ONE already for at least 26 years. We are thrown back in time by fascist dictators

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    China isn’t a threat to the EU lol. Russia is more complicated. but Putin is mostly playing the cards he is dealt. If you got rid of NATO and ended severe sanctions , maybe didn’t blow up their NG pipelines, Russia would grow beyond Putin.

    You could put any country on the left and the US flag on the right and it would be accurate. You could even put the US flag on both sides and it would be accurate

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      Russia is the fucking dealer of their own cards. The sanctions and blowing up of pipelines are both direct responses to their fucking invasion of Ukraine.

      They don’t get to play the victim.

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        Listen I do not condone the Russian invasion. But they were all but forced to invade. The western neoliberal hegemon wanted to draw Russia into a war of attrition, the west did a color counter - revolution after Euromaidan. Yanukovitch was forced out after asking for aid from Russia rather than the World Bank. The US funded extreme right-wing militants in Ukraine, and then, after Putin said they would invade if NATO expanded into Ukraine, the US and the EU pushed to make Ukraine a member state. Guess what happened next.

        And the Ukrainian people have lost so much. The country has been brutally exploited for the last 100 years. The war is a proving ground for drone warfare, which is being turned on the people of the West. I won’t say Russia had no options but invasion, I won’t defend Putin, but he’s the guy. The West can’t admit that their bellicose attitude toward Russia keeps him in power. And the war in Ukraine is a prime example. Staying in power has its own horrible logic. The actions of.Putin are reprehensible, and I probably was too easy on him in the above comment. But it is much more complicated than “bad man invade.” The Ukraine war was the result of a decade of meddling by the west.

        Perhaps a similar argument can be made of the US, that large powers have to ruthlessly defend their interests, as Mearsheimer argues. But the war in Ukraine wasnt the beginning, The war in Ukraine was the result.

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    Don’t bother with the propaganda, Europe is the best place to live in, we are happiest and healthiest population. US is nothing but a European colony in Native American land with hybris. We had fascism here 100 years ago, US is just now starting to explore it. Democracy can be simple populism if the population is uneducated, thats what Europeans concluded 2000 years ago in Greece.

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      Europe is only a decent place to live because it’s reliant on imperialism, and until now has been able to rely on the US Empire propping up NATO to lower Europe’s millitary spending. Now that imperialism is drying up and the US Empire no longer wants to be the only one paying for NATO, European countries are enforcing austerity and sliding to the far-right.

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        To be fair, far-right ideologies have been ramping up worldwide since a decade or two.

        The current political context just embolden the far right actors to go mask off.

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          But why? What is the material cause of this? I’d say it’s the gradual decline in imperialism breeding right-wing populism as the smaller capitalists are pressed downward toward the working classes, and the necessity of austerity to cover for losses in gains from imperialism.

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            There is certainly a big part that can be attributed to imperialism, but my (uneducated) pet theory is that technocrats were able to harness the accessibility of big data after the great recession to siphon wealth from working class a lot more efficiently, by radicalizing people.

            There had been a big leap from 2005 to 2015-2016 on computing power that enabled the widespread of big data and the corpos with the means to get in on it used it to further enrich their corporation and themselves and created this extremely toxic environment where everything is polarized and monetized.

            And with big data, populists can change in real time their message so that they get more money and influence. And tribalism seems to work pretty fucking well. So they finetuned their message to radicalize people and achieve that goal.

            People can isolate themselves into online communities that will echo and amplify their views of the world. And now they are pouring on the streets because they’ve became enough of a big group to do so.

            Technocrats created this big machine to get rich, and the machine feed itself, giving more power to the ultra rich, which grab more power and influence by radicalizing people.

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      Are you saying that we aren’t completely vassalized and beholden to the yankee empire?? Who rebuilt west europe after WW2? Do you think they just did that and handed the reigns back to the europeans? Do you really think that Europe is equal to and independent from the US? Because this is how they talk about us:

      https://x.com/acyn/status/1860153637382815921

      and we just take it. Any project of ours trying to distance ourselves from yankee dependence like e.g. Nord Stream 2, they bomb it. And we just take it. Hate the yankee, but remember they’re our master and hate them more.

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      So why are you here arguing with us instead of living your healthy and happy life?

      What have you done to build Europe? Who actually built it? Where did all the wealth and resources used to build Europe come from?

      Also are you seriously going to use Greece as an example of your rich history? Look what EU has done to it…

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      i thought i was the only one who noticed the marvel characters and i still don’t fully understand what it means. lol

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    Except the EU can’t compete industrially or millitarily with any of those 3. The EU needs to correctly identify who to partner with for its own survival, and it’s clear that the PRC is the best option, Russia being a second choice. The US Empire is dying, and the EU imperialists are either going to fall down with it or be forced into cooperation with those it has convinced itself are existential enemies.

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      Maybe there’d be some hope for that to happen if everyone in the EU hadn’t been conditioned to be racist as fuck against anyone to the east or south for centuries

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      The EU has a much larger GDP and a significantly higher defense budget than Russia (about 457 billion USD vs. 146 billion USD in 2024). While its industry is more fragmented, it can be rapidly scaled up when needed as demonstrated in Ukraine. and the comparison to russia also lacks because the EU doesn’t consider the current situation as active war. However, compared to the US and China, the EU still lags behind their global projections. Although Russia has increased its arms production in recent years, it is suffering from sanctions and material losses in the Ukraine conflict, which limits its military capabilities. Overall, the EU is economically and industrially stronger than Russia, but still trails the US and China in a global comparison. Since there is a noticable shift of power in the world the EU started to focus more on China and India as trading partners and leave the US who traditionally were European allies.

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        The EU has a much larger GDP and a significantly higher defense budget than Russia (about 457 billion USD vs. 146 billion USD in 2024)

        The EU is far more financialized, in terms of gross industrial output the EU is behind the Russian Federation. This is a holdover from their soviet legacy. In terms of real production, Russia succeeds, despite lower GDP, because money stretches much farther in Russia. 1 million USD worth of Russian goods gets you a lot more than 1 million USD in European goods, to make things simple.

        Europe could make up the gap, but it is so dominated by finance capital and energy dependency that this makes it incredibly difficult without adopting socialism.

        Overall, the EU is economically and industrially stronger than Russia

        This is false. The EU is financially stronger than Russia, largely thanks to modern neoimperialism in Africa, but industrially is far behind.

        Since there is a noticable shift of power in the world the EU started to focus more on China and India as trading partners and leave the US who traditionally were European allies.

        Correct, the EU is being demoted from imperial vassal to periphery, and since it would take devastating losses in open conflict with a major power without US backing it has to seek other allies.

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          The Netherlands colonized half the world despite being smaller than Mongolia - Venice was able to stand up to countries like the ottoman empire despite being only a single city.

          Financialization isn’t everything, but it’s not nothing either.

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            Imperialism is characterized by the following:

            -The presence of monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life.

            -The merging of bank capital with industrial capital into finance capital controlled by a financial oligarchy.

            -The export of capital as distinguished from the simple export of commodities.

            -The formation of international monopolist capitalist associations (cartels) and multinational corporations.

            -The domination and exploitation of other countries by militaristic imperialist powers, now through neocolonialism.

            -The territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers.

            The global north, Europe included, uses this export of capital to super-exploit foreign labor for super-profits. It also engages in unequal exchange, where the global south is prevented from moving up the value chain in production, allowing the global north to charge monopoly prices for commodities produced in the same labor hours.

            The point I am making isn’t simply about land conquering, but an ongoing process of shifting surplus value and resources from the imperialized to the core. Finance capital is the primary mechanism by which this functions.

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          Ridiculous Russia have zero people, they’ve lost 2m in manpower. They have a lot of land but in every measure they are less powerful than the EU. They are economically the size of Spain. The EU contains Spain and it’s not even the largest economy. Russian propaganda much?

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            You’re confusing finances with raw industrial power. An 8 USD big mac in Switzerland isn’t 3 times better than a 2.54 USD big mac in Indonesia.

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            How many times has Russia supposedly been about to collapse? You’d think after the dozenth, people would learn

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              Russia has collapsed a bunch in history. Their conquering isolationist history is a failed strategy.

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                “In history” lol ok, now how many times has the Russian Federation been predicted to collapse in Ukraine, and how many times has it.

                Their

                Who is they? Everyone in Russia? Who are you talking about, you weird nationalist?

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        What the EU doesn’t have, at least in the short/medium term, is energy. That industrial base needs (a lot of) energy. Russia was able to supply this cheaply, while the US is charging an arm and a leg. Of course in the long run, renewables can help keep that energy production local, but that means developing closer ties with China. And right now the US is trying to throw up walls to prevent other countries from accessing China’s renewable energy products.

        The EU does indeed have a significantly larger potential industrial base than Russia. But that also requires coordination, intentional action, and long-term planning. So far the EU hasn’t seemed capable of doing these things but who knows, maybe Trump has been the wake-up call Europeans need.

        I also hope Trump has shown Europeans that the US is the bigger threat to European sovereignty than Russia. And this will be true after Trump is gone, it’s not a one-time thing (Biden did things hostile to European sovereignty but that goes under the radar because he was more supportive of Ukraine). But yeah, if the EU makes some coordinated effort to build military defenses, they shouldn’t have a problem protecting their sovereignty against Russia. And that assumes Russia wants to try and military conquer parts of Europe, which I do not believe but even if I did, a more robust, domestic EU military would be enough to prevent an attack even if that was Russia’s intention.

        The US is Europe’s fake friend - with or without Trump - and it frustrates me to no end that Europeans can’t see it.

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          What’s deeply ironic about this situation is that one of the main reasons the EU has remained distant to Russia is the US. Cold war was between US and Russia. More recently US opposed Nord Stream 2. Now US suddenly is friendly to Russia and EU are running around like headless chicken because they made it their own identity to be hostile to Russia. There haven been people suggesting that while indeed Russia is antidemocratic etc. one can still try to carefully cooperate, because it happens to be a neighbor and it makes sense strategically. Who knows, maybe in the process one could positively influence Russia, it doesn’t have to be always the other way. But these people are instantly called Russian assets and demonized. And it’s not like this kind of reasoning was the real issue anyway, as in the meantime you see western democracies happily collaborating e.g. with Turkey or Saudi Arabia. The Ukraine war complicates things though. Aside of the humanitarian and economic tragedy, it’s a diplomatic disaster, as it makes Russia look quite hostile to Europe, whether they actually „want to continue“ beyond Ukraine or not.

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        Vast industrial capacity and tons of oil and natural gas, both of which the EU needs but does not have.

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          Only major industries Russia has are weapons (we sell those, they are a competitor) and fossil fules (we are in the process of not using them)

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            we are in the process of not using them

            not anywhere close to fast nor soon enough to help the situation.

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              I disagree. Renewables have been growing exponentially for years. Its already making an impact in some countries, sadly way less in others.

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                Instead of taking the opportunity to vastly expand renewables and make a green transition Europe is buying LNG from the US for a way higher price than Russia offered. The green transition has been watered down on European level as well (I wouldn’t call it exponential growth)

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            Russia has quite a bit more than just those areas, but importantly, the EU still needs fossil fuels. It could sidestep this by purchasing large amounts of solar from China, or making or buying nuclear reactors, but it can’t do so overnight. Moreover, the EU is heavily financialized, and industry is hurting. Much of what the EU consumes is made overseas, or comes from overseas resource extraction, especially from European neocolonies in Africa. Imperialism is decaying, so this puts the EU in an even tighter spot, hence political instability and a strong rightward shift.

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              making or buying nuclear reactors

              The country that export most of nuclear build capacity, is by far Russia, with over 20 reactors in construction abroad. So while EU countries does have know-how to build them too, i bet it’s nowhere near the required scale (also China builds like 30 reactors, but in China)

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                Definitely, that’s what I was implying with that but I probably should have spelled it out, rather than expecting them to realize nuclear depends likely on Russia.

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              I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Russia has way less industrial output than the EU. Russia is more imperialist than the EU. EU is shifting right, but is still wayyy to the left of Russia. Saying we should align with Russia is like saying we should align with turkey. Or Saudi Arabia.

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                Russia is the 4th largest economy by GDP, adjusted to PPP, and isn’t as heavily reliant on finance capital as the EU is. Moreover, Russia has no colonies nor neocolonies, and doesn’t run their economy based on export of capital and plundering the surplus value of the global south, like the US and EU do.

                Imperialism is characterized by the following:

                -The presence of monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life.

                -The merging of bank capital with industrial capital into finance capital controlled by a financial oligarchy.

                -The export of capital as distinguished from the simple export of commodities.

                -The formation of international monopolist capitalist associations (cartels) and multinational corporations.

                -The domination and exploitation of other countries by militaristic imperialist powers, now through neocolonialism.

                -The territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers.

                The global north, Europe included, uses this export of capital to super-exploit foreign labor for super-profits. It also engages in unequal exchange, where the global south is prevented from moving up the value chain in production, allowing the global north to charge monopoly prices for commodities produced in the same labor hours. Russia does not do this, it has a paltry sum of the world’s finance capital, and this is proven by just how low their nominal GDP is compared to it’s GDP adjusted to PPP.

                The Russian Federation and the EU are both right-wing, but the EU is actively imperialist. The fact that progressive nationalist movements like the Alliance of Sahel States are kicking out European plunderers, and the PRC is presenting as an alternative to western domination, is exactly why conditions within the imperialist west are declining and causing a shift to the far-right. Austerity politics are enforced due to capitalist decay.

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                  I think long term a post-Putin Russia should really just join the EU (along with Ukraine). Russia has always been European. The cold war fuelled by the US is over. There’s no reason to divide Europe ethnographically when with open borders, free trade and unified economic policies everyone can do what they want.

                  The only thing the EU should realize faster is unified wages across regions and some sort of control over private property/housing, else western capitalists will keep buying land and homes creating serfdom.

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                  Russia is part of the global north. Most of Russia’s territory is made up of colonies. You can not be pro Russia and anti imperialist at the same time.

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                Russia is more imperialist than the EU

                Tell that to roughly a quarter of the entire continent of Africa that lived or still lives under French imperial control