• PetoniousRex@lemmy.zip
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    O.K. call me super nieve but and I mean a HUGE BUT, what if it became an actual working democracy? I know it sounds absolutely coo coo insane-o-style but a democracy with rules for the almost but not quite equal capitalism we once had. A regulated capitalism that doesn’t squash indevidual , independent voice. Or smother it with Hush money.

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    I remember them saying and acting like Iraq was always a place of poor literacy, conflict, and poverty and a stone age culture.

    Without ever acknowledging that this was basically the point (which many said in the lead up to the war in 2002) of the Iraq war.

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        And thus, debate is dead, and your cozy bubble is formed. I get banning troll users, but banning a whole instance is a step towards killing what the federation is supposed to stand for.

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      11 hours ago

      There’s a dumb dumb feddit and world user but I actually don’t see any tankie comments here lol

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    Also the USA

    Why does everyone hate us? We are good people, nice people, nobody should hate us!

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      Bold of you to assume the US and Israel will last generations in their current forms.

      The Nazis didn’t create generations of future enemies for Germany.

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      but they will be poor and potentially malnutrition and potentially civil warring for the foreseeable future.

      At least that seems to be the hope

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    regardless of what anyone might think of Iran, this is evil

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      What anyone thinks of Iran should pale in comparison to what they think of the US. Truly the most evil nation since Nazi Germany.

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          not to get all tankie on you, but China has thus far managed to restrain themselves from bombing other countries’ civilian populations.

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            dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’

            like again I really don’t want to frame this like the US is the good guy, the US is not, but as a matter of scale currently China is still worse

            China has been worse than Nazi Germany

            all that said, US is trying real hard to be #1 in something again so yay!

            fuck I hate this

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            recency bias and the US outsized reputation makes it seem that I’m sure but lol if you think this is true

            we’re just more free to complain about it, probably not for much longer though

            so if you think it’s bad now buckle up and I say this as a generational casualty of US colonialism

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              Its not receny bias. The US didnt just turn evil in Jan 2025.

              How are are all those black prisoners working in privatised prisons doing by the way?

              China has 4 times the population as the US, yet the US still has the largest prison population on Earth.

              Slavery never ended in america.

              Land of the free my hole. Its literally the least free country on the planet.

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                who said anything about 2025? even if you want to peg the US evil starting with Nixon (which isn’t perfectly true as we were war profiteering in ww1/2) that’s recent, the US is a baby nation

                now you’re just throwing strawman arguments, I don’t support any of this shit the US is currently doing, it’s just stupid to think China hasn’t done worse in the last century, isn’t doing equally evil shit now

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          Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.

          Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.

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            By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations

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              Would it really be tho?

              Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.

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                Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries’ affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it’s existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.

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            i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close

            the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion

            Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)

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              Wow you’re truly stupid lmao. surely a genocide that massive in the modern era would have ANY FUCKING EVIDENCE

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      Nothing Iran has ever done is even comparable to what Israel and the US have done in the past 3 years alone.

      Of all the countries that need to be dissolved entirely as political entities, Israel and US are far higher on the list than Iran

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    They also bombed the largest factory producing anti-cancer drugs and other medical facilities.
    More than 600 schools have also been hit.
    The USSA is as bad as the Shitraeli genociders.
    Absolute monsters.

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    Good way to ensure that whatever regime rises from the ashes will be even more backwards than the last.

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    The US has done this exact shit off its own steam before, no need to fall back on the Israelis as defense. They utterly destroyed the North of Korea during their genocidal anti-communist war, for example.

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      “This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago” - a totally normal leftist response to a war crime happening today

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        This is just like what the US did to my favourite monarchy 75 years ago

        Are you referring to North Korea? The DPRK has a cult of personality thing going on, for sure. But that hadn’t developed yet, by the time of the Korean war. Rather the DPRK was a really quite vibrant multi-party Socialist democracy.

        The overwhelming dominance of the WPK, and the ostensible sidelining of other parties and organizations in the Supreme People’s Assembly only starts to occur after the war. With the genocidal bombing of the Korean peninsula by the United States, and subsequent economic and diplomatic isolation, being the primary engine which drove political centralization.

        Compare the results of 1948 SPA election results with those of 1957.

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          Cool. Not sure what it has to do with North Korea being their favourite monarchy today though?

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        Fuck off lib. You’ll be saying this exact same thing in a few years about Iran and pretending that the United States of Pissreal was right in doing what it’s doing today.

        Your obnoxious settler states won’t last long. Count the days

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    Iran needs to stop holding back and demolish all universities in Israel. This is fucking ridiculous. They’re setting your country back decades if not more. If you’re still sticking to some abstract morality while the future of your people is stolen from them, you’re a fucking idiot.

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      “Holding back” isn’t really what they’re doing. It’s hard to justify attacking a school when doing so puts your already diminished resources at risk. Every time they launch a missile that launcher platform is highlighted for attack just like we’ve seen in Ukraine, but arguably even worse.

      If you’re going to risk losing valuable assets then you have to justify it with valuable targets.

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    Science is also how they can cause such devastation. Maybe all you scientists should stop empowering the assholes who murder people?

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      Science didn’t put assholes in control. It is the anti science US, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers who put them in.

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        But science builds the machines of war. Science unlocks the power inevitably used by those leaders to make war. Scientists are not free from responsibility just because they don’t pull the trigger. They enable the building of the entire gun. At what point to scientists say ‘no more’ and refuse to continue to empower these leaders?

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          you are blaming scientist in a thread about a research hospital being blown up

          if you don’t like be called out, stop being an edgy little bitch

          smarmy comments in the face of an institution like this being destroyed is supporting genocide

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      I agree. Iran needs to bomb tf out of Israeli universities and military plants MUCH more than they already are. Israel must never ever be able to pose a threat to anyone in the region. Neuter them completely