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    Zuck building a bunker for his ex-military head of security who will murder him instantly.

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      Murder him? Nahh put the explosive collar on his neck with help of the IT guy and make him a bitch boy.

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    People refusing to work for them would put a quick end to them.

    They need us way more than we need them. They’re the parasites, we’re the hosts.

    If you know someone who works directly under a billionaire’s umbrella, shame them. Make it uncool to work at Meta, or SpaceX, selling Teslas, or Amazon at any level. Make it uncool to work on their yachts, or in their homes, or as their driver, etc.

    We DO have the power, we need to exercise it together.

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      Make it uncool to work on their yachts, or in their homes, or as their driver, etc.

      Hang on a sec, some of these jobs come with the opportunity to, uh, do something very cool.

       

       

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      I 90% agree with, but given the state of the economy, lots of people gotta pay the bills and finding another job is difficult if not impossible right now. And that’s exactly by design. Not to mention working inside one of these companies comes with the potential for sabotage. Maybe lets not shame people who don’t get the luxury of choice right now.

      And of course, encourage union participation as well as any form of sabotage that one can perform that won’t end in the death or harm of innocents.

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      Those companies haven’t been “cool” to work at for a while now, but they’re prestigious because they pay so much and people care about money and status.

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    I honestly wouldn’t read too much into these bunkers. Wealth inequality is the bigger issue. Zuck has a net worth of about $220 billion. $100 million to Zuck is like a middle class family with a net worth of $300k spending $136. An underground bunker for Zuck is like dinner and a few drinks for most people.

    So why do they have bunkers? Because they can. If you could build a doomsday bunker under your house for a hundred bucks, wouldn’t you? People invest far more than that in storm shelters. Read something sinister into it if you want. But this seems like a “because we can” expense more than anything.

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      This is a reasonable analysis. I guess because we are in a (silent) Cold War 2.0 and the world population became disillusioned with globalisation, billionaires building their own bunker is their insurance policy should the world is thrown into another chaos. After all, many countries who could afford did build bunkers for their citizens during the first Cold War, in case we decide launch nukes and extinct ourselves. Billionaires building their own bunkers is not different.

      But on the one hand, there could be something intentionally sinister. Several billionaires, especially Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, are accelerationists. They see the world is going to end and so might as well speed it up and get on with. Although, they want to rule the ashes after. That’s their idea.

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      It’s also not necessarily indicative of anything. $100M is nothing for Zuckerberg, about 0.05% of his estimated net worth.

      For context, excluding billionaires, your average 42 year old American (Zuckerberg’s age) is worth about $135k*. 0.05% of $135k is about $68.

      Given the choice, would you spend $68 to completely cover you just in case the world falls apart? Most people would. I certainly would.

      *That still includes some pretty wealthy people that skew it higher, so don’t feel bad if you’re not even close in net worth. I’m sure not!

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          Definitely the second, the second is 10000x worse.

          If someone is only worth “that little” but society provides free healthcare, childcare, education, price controlled utilities, housing, and food, and income security through some form of universal income, and everything was clean and green because billionaires didn’t exist and the extra gold hoarding blood money went into society and making sure the earth would stay safe for humans, everyone would be much better off.

          A high net worth isn’t needed when all of your basic needs are covered and billionaires aren’t ramming prices of everything up 2-10x

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    Because there is an impending global catastrophe they have determined is unavoidable and unpreventable that they have kept under wraps due to the inevitable collapse of society once people learn of it. This is why there are no long term plans for anything anymore. Because there won’t be a long term.

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      Because there is an impending global catastrophe they have determined is unavoidable and unpreventable caused through their greed and selfishness

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      There never were long term plans. Market economics is an evolutionary system. Business are the organisms with that system (so are nations, and any other organization made of people, really). So long as a business metabolizes human labor into profit, it continues. What looks like planning was really just ~two centuries of exponential growth. There is no driver’s seat, not really. The capitalist that forsakes profit doesn’t stay a capitalist long. The system itself imposes a greater selective pressure than any individual human will. It will outlast last its components… until it doesn’t. Nothing can maintain both exponential growth and equilibrium within it’s environment.

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      And, while they have the resources to do something to prevent it, they chose instead to make the situation worse.

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        Because they only care about their own well-being, as long as they have their money, stuff and slaves everything else can burn.

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    Come on. If you had all the money in the world you’d probably build one too, tbh. I know i would. I would build a freaking underground network like extra homes. It would be awesome

    but yeah, zuck probably is doing it for evil reasons.

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    Why is a horde of geese raising the usaian flag? Because usaians aren’t doing s***

    In fact, they elected a rapist to president and their reaction to a major pedophile conspiracy being uncovered in their government is to seethe on the interwebs

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        He purchased a shit ton of land there and the locals didn’t like it a few years ago. I’m not up to date on what’s going on now but I did want to share that he had some fuckass picture of himself with a phat ass paddleboarding slathered in sunscreen that was lightly memed although it didn’t catch on, and the theory was that he did it so that when you google Zuckerberg Hawai’i that picture would show up instead of his land grab. Thought that was interesting.

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      The response from overseas is sort of confusing. He’s a dictator. He doesn’t need to be voted for. That’s not how being a dictator works. Dictators always say that they won the vote, but they didn’t. We have an electoral college which was established when black men won their right to vote, so we didn’t elect our presidents in the past, not even under “normal” circumstances before the establishment of this regime. Our political system hasn’t ever worked the way you imagine, at least not to my knowledge. Can you explain more how you imagine elections work? (said in good faith)

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        The ‘response from overseas’ comes from a decade of watching trump politics gain favour in the US. Massive rallies about making America great again, and taking your country back rhetorics, even after all the Epstein stuff came about, the religion of trump flourished in America.

        Sure, you can claim that he’s a dictator now. But only because americans have allowed him to become one. That’s why the overall sentiment from the rest of the world is negative. Americans made this monster, and now it’s the world that has to deal with his bullshit.

        That’s not to say america wasn’t already fucking everyone else over, that’s the American way and has been happening since they discovered stars and put them on fabric. But Trump has exacerbated that issue, and the American people are complicit for supporting the growth of such a monster; it’s fresh to Americans, because now even the American people are on the receiving end. But for the rest of us, this is the same story just worse.

        I’m not saying this applies to you personally btw, I’m just trying to share the honest sentiment around Americans as a whole. There will undoubtedly be exceptions to the rule, but from an overseas perspective, there’s been nowhere near enough.

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          The ‘response from overseas’ comes from a decade of watching trump politics gain favour in the US. Massive rallies about making America great again, and taking your country back rhetorics, even after all the Epstein stuff came about, the religion of trump flourished in America.

          Those are on TV (edit: or on the news). Those rallies aren’t “massive” according to the reports I’ve read, and they do not take place in my part of the country, so I have no idea how big they really are. I’ve read reports of smallish crowds, rather than the large crowds Trump reports. One of us is probably believing propaganda, but I have no idea which one.

          Sure, you can claim that he’s a dictator now. But only because americans have allowed him to become one.

          That isn’t how power works in my country.

          American people are complicit for supporting the growth of such a monster;

          If you have a plan on how we should free ourselves, I’m all ears.

          I’m not saying this applies to you personally btw, I’m just trying to share the honest sentiment around Americans as a whole.

          Do you visit here often? What are you basing this opinion on?

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            Ah so you weren’t interested in the overseas sentiment at all, you’re just looking to excuse yourself from the culpability.

            Atleast we know which category you fit in I guess.

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              …what? No. I’m genuinely asking how you came to this conclusion. It seems like you got here by viewing propaganda and not by talking to Americans in real life. I don’t want to make that assumption about you, and that’s why I’m asking for clarity. I didn’t vote for Trump. My part of the country holds massive rallies against him, and I know they’re massive because I can see them with my eyes.

              How did you come to this conclusion? Was it from reading the news? Watching TV? Talking to people? Do you know a lot of American Trump supporters? I know a few of them, but I wouldn’t say they are the majority, they are mostly very old people who watch Fox News all day and are in mental decline. I don’t know these people in a social context. I do not see the world from the news reflected in my day to day. Support for Trump is, from my perspective, entirely manufactured by the media.

              edit: Even if it wasn’t… we can’t vote him out, and we couldn’t vote him in. We can’t meaningfully vote for the president.

              And if you hate Trump so much, how come that’s my fault and not Trumps? How come you let Trump into your country and let him shake hands with your leaders, but you won’t let me seek asylum?

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                  Like the majority of Americans, I am being targeted by this regime. This regime has promised to exterminate me, my relatives, my friends, and the people who live in my neighborhood. ICE took three of my neighbors a few weeks ago.

                  How that my fault? Why does Trump deserve to go to Europe, but not me?

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              Ah so you weren’t interested in the overseas sentiment at all, you’re just looking to excuse yourself from the culpability.

              DING DING DING

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      They are not living in reality anymore. There is something within these Techbros that denies consensus reality and substitutes some kind of simulation of their own.

      That’s the reason this guy can build a bunker on an island close to the water on a volcano.

      There is also some interesting symbolism in there.

      They feel the need to hide from the people, because they know they would face the fate of Johan de Witt if the people ever found out what they did to them.

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        There’s something that happens to your brain when you get lots of money it seems.

        Sam Bankman-Fried the disgraced crypto entrepreneur was an effective altruist with a few of his coworkers and their goal was helping people. I was reading up on them and it was initially about feeding people and earning money to give to others. When they started getting more and more money they were like: “what if there’s a zombie outbreak?” Obviously, we’re really smart and society needs people like us to survive so we should be spending money on private islands and having our own country to make sure we can keep humanity going or some shit. It was weird.

        Despite what anything thinks about Bill Burr now … I think he had a really good point about these “end of the world” catastrophes – I simply don’t want to be alive for any of them. I don’t wanna be scrounging around the remnants of humanity with a dying ecosystem and dwindling human race.

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          I agree with Burr’s sentiment. I’ve seriously started thinking about selling my stuff and maybe go a few places to see ppl I care about once more and just exiting when I’m totally broke. Fuck it.

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      There are no active volcanos on Kauai; they are only active above the hot spot which Kauai has been moving away from for about 5 million years.

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        Hot spots are by nature in constant flux. Kauai isn’t nearly far enough from the main plume to say for absolute certainty that a flare in the mantle couldn’t cause the dormant volcano there to reactivate. At the very least there are seismic events to consider. There was a 6.0 quake about a week ago just outside of Kona. That is plenty to potentially cause a landslide of cave-in on Kauai. These could also cause tsunamis which could cause all sorts of issues for a bunker.

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          The Hawaiian Islands are an archipelago, the furthest being Kure Atoll which is about 30 million years old. The hot spot that has created this archipelago is activating volcanos on the Big Island, as well as the Kamaʻehuakanaloa Seamount.

          The reason the volcanos on Kauai are extinct is the direction the Pacific tectonic plate is moving.

          I made no arguments against any other type of events affecting his future crypt, only that Kauai is not an island with an active volcano.

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            The volcano on Kauai is classed as extinct, which means it has not erupted in the last 10,000 years. You are right there. My point is that there are plenty of documented cases of extinct volcanoes reactivating. Hayli Gubbi in Ethiopia and Fourpeaked in Alaska are both examples.

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      It’s the perfect place for petting their white cat and berating their henchmen while waiting for James Bond to storm the place.

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      Concrete on the air vents.

      I’m too smart to know some of these Feudalists are dumb enough to cut corners in their own safety plan.

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    This delights me… to be a fly on the wall of that bunker!

    Should he ever use it, he’ll find out that locking himself in with his staff was a massive error in judgment. They will tear him apart.

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      Should he ever use it, he’ll find out that locking himself in with his staff was a massive error in judgment. They will tear him apart.

      I’m sure these billionaires have found a solution that makes perfect sense to them.

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        The collars will be vibe coded by the lowest bidder’s roommate’s nephew and will immediately explode once the doors are closed leaving them effectively stranded inside, helpless to watch on the security cameras as the concrete trucks roll up to seal off the doors…