• Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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    Okay, those laws of war run on “as long as you don’t do it, I won’t either”. America’s allies in the region also need water, what if Iran strikes at their reservoirs in retaliation? Trump may have escalated the war into terrifying new territory.

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    5 hours ago

    So more war crimes. Yay. Proud to be an American were at least I know I’m shackled to a government run by pedophiles, corporations, and foreign interests.

    Let’s make everyone in the U.S. vote and see what happens. I feel like at least once before the great experiment totally implodes we should just try that once since we are so fucking free and are the best fucking democracy ever……

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    I wonder if the Israelis were somehow involved in shooting down the chopper. The crazy fucks want the damn war to rage on so they can steal more land from Lebanon and the West Bank.

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      The helicopter was illegally in iranian territory. It doesn’t matter if iran or iarael shot it down. The usa had no right to bomb Iran again

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    This isn’t even unusual, I’m surprised they didn’t do it sooner.

    The USA is hopeful that there will be a civilian uprising, and will do anything in its power to make life in Iran as miserable as possible. Even as they complain about Iran’s killing of civilians, they will murder those same civilians.

    Recall that over 500K Iraqis died to topple Hussein for the crime of killing 20K Iraqis.

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    The targets that were hit are not being reported in the US at all as far as I can tell.

    Just “strikes in Southern Iran”.

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    I quess water infrastructure is on the table now. Good job, America.

    Iran will offcourse retaliate by hitting the water infrastructure in the Gulf States, causing massive issues in the Arab world.

    This is Russia level incompetence.

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      I do not understand why Gulf states aren’t pulling out every possible stop they have to get Trump and Israel to stop this buffoonery. Like I don’t see how any possible outcome of this war could even possibly benefit them?

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        What levers would they pull? Most are barely more then a set of wealthy oligarchs playing at a nation. Not really having a tonne of cards to play in this stupid conflict with the us/israel and not the spine to stand up against them.

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      Huh, wouldn’t expect that from someone who regularly passes cognitive tests (/s)

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      This is Russia level incompetence.

      well when your nation becomes a vassal state to Russia, that is to be expected.

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    Why wouldn’t other countries just not sanction us?

    seriously this and the killing random people in fishing boats with no due process in international waters are war crimes.

    If China, Russia, EU and everyone else said nah fuck you we won’t buy any of your shit or sell you any of our shit would that not fix the problem in like, one months time?

    Seriously why isn’t this happening?? Couldn’t the ICC make its members do something like this? Or is that not how that works?

    I’m just trying to understand. There must be something the world can do that doesn’t involve war why don’t they do that?

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      I guess the closest thing to this that’s happening is BRICS and their efforts to do less international trade in dollars. De-dollarization freaks out the US ruling class, so you know it’s a good thing. Just wish it would happen faster.

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      Why wouldn’t other countries just not sanction us?

      Because the vast majority of countries are dependent on the USAs financial system, odds are very good your country is dependent on that same system in thousands of ways. Especially Europe.

      They hate America even as they depend upon it… and it’s even worse than that, as the USA is controlled by banking interests that have been around since the slavery days. Should America disappear tomorrow, another “financial center” will replace it, it’s an international web of financial interests.

      Their only goal is profit, national concerns are irrelevant to them.

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      I think they’re all too reliant on the US and they notice, the US kinda has them by the balls, strategically. They all seem to be quiet quitting / ghosting, and that seems to be all the power they have. What they’re doing will be felt for decades, it’s more of a slow burn, they are kinda sanctioning, in the sense of removing reliance of all US products. The US govt has built itself up as an evil superpower, with tendrils of control over other countries, military posts, strategic assassinations. What do they have on Australia, that makes them defund supports for disabled people, just to be able to bomb Iran along with the US. There’s some deep seeded control going on there, and in many other places.

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        I know that and about the Hague act thing basically saying they will invade if they ever try to do something but if they did invade them that would be WW3 surely so that has to be a bluff.

        I guess I couldn’t expect them to force other countries to isolate the USA economically but damn it would be awesome if they had the power

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      Russia is already sanctioned/sanctioning due to the Ukraine War. China maybe could, but they are more focused on renegotiating a trade deal. The EU is already in the process is strategic decoupling and can’t go that much faster. Any other country is likely going to either have enough economic consequences that they can’t afford to or are doing so little trade that it doesn’t mean anything any way.

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      The U.S. is very powerful. It has the third biggest population in the world and has a lot of economic influence, including all the damage trump has done to it.

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    My news didn’t tell me this. Total dick move, if Iran hit an aquifer of an allied country our media would cry foul. Fucking cunts.

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      And we add it to the pile…

      Another day another war crime from this piece of shit country…

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        14 hours ago

        Attacking a reservoir is illegal (war crime) as it is a piece of civilian infrastructure. All attacks on civilian infrastructure are crimes of war and can be punished under the Geneva Conventions.

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          Deliberately starving a civilian population by destroying or blocking access to food, water, and other survival necessities is a war crime. This includes interfering with humanitarian relief supplies. A 2019 amendment to the Rome Statute extended this prohibition to non-international armed conflicts, closing a significant gap in the law.

          Unless they can prove that the reservoir was being used as part of the military or military support operations,it’s off limits.

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            Since the usa was in negociations and even said that it was a retaliation against the shooting for the helicopter. The principle of necessity and proportionality is not there.

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          I understand that. I’m making a statement that there were no mentions of war crimes. Let’s do another round?

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            They bombed a reservoir.

            That is a war crime.

            The article doesn’t need to explicitly say “they gone and done some war crimes” for that to be the case.

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              Almost certain that the person you’re replying to is saying that the article should say that it’s a war crime, not that it isn’t one because the article doesn’t say so.

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                This exactly. For the mouth-breathers out there who don’t understand why it’s a bad idea to bomb reservoirs, it’s important to state clearly this is a war crime.

                Of course, the fucking US Government has done countless war crimes and not been prosecuted. So… yeah.

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        So you need a news reporter to declare its a war crime before you will use your own brain and understand the definitions of war crimes, is that whats going on here?

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          Yes. For the dummies, you do. What is hard to understand about this? Not everybody is well informed or educated enough to know what is and is not a war crime.

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          They are criticizing the article for being non-comprehensive.

          You are criticizing them because you misunderstood their point and I guess you felt the need to keep digging until you started throwing insults.

          You know - I don’t think I need to offer further commentary. The facts are in evidence.
          Take a deep breath. Think of something you’re grateful for, and tell someone you care for them. That is your penance.

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            The comment I replied to is:

            Not a single mention of that in the article.

            Which was itself a reply to mrdowns comment:

            War cimes

            Its pretty straight forward. Then look at "orbituary"s other comments and you see stuff like this:

            Yes. For the dummies, you do. What is hard to understand about this? Not everybody is well informed or educated enough to know what is and is not a war crime.

            So if you want to dick-waggle at someone about nuance and not understanding, talk to your buddy Orbituary. Its a lame point made poorly, and your assigning ire to me on it is another lame point. You have yourself a nice day, and get off your dumb high horse assigning people “penance”. Who the eff do you think you are?

            edit: @Monument, I do see that the pattern of your comments is exactly this in many instances-- its what you are here for, accusing people of not understanding things, then calling them names on a high horse to make yourself feel smart. This is your whole shtick. Its Pathetic and Tedious. You must be real fun in real life.

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              Oh, you’re right! You did jump to insults right off the bat.

              Then you stalked my account to try to create more personalized attacks.

              I mean, you can keep arguing but you will have to do better than to accuse me of trying to be a good person. Unless you were trying to say I’m fake, but
              I actually care. And the same sort of toxic user behavior that ruined Reddit long before the administrators did is something I try to meet with good humor and a sense of silliness. Maybe the Lemmy community can keep that at bay.

              If your antipathy and rage at other people is such that you cannot break through it to realize someone is cracking a joke, then… I don’t know. I don’t have a constructive suggestion right now.
              No joke here: Are you physically in pain? Maybe something you don’t realize is bothering you? Possibly some other drain on your psyche? You’re putting out a lot of hate for being random text in my phone.

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    fresh war crimes. The US needs to sign onto the ICC so our leaders can go explain themselves in court.

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    The guy is clearly insane and out of control. This is squarely on the heads of JD Vance and Marco Rubio for not invoking the 25th amendment. This was obviously not a military target and was designed to cause mass civilian casualties and death.

    OH HELL NO! Not in our name!

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      As a Native American I regret to inform you that

      This was obviously not a military target and was designed to cause mass civilian casualties and death.

      is entirely typical of the US government.

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      What world are you living in that you think the 25th amendment would work right now? Vance and Rubio are pieces of shit. But why would they throw away their lifelong careers of being pieces of fucking shit for something that would get them ostracized from their tribe, and leave the other side also hating them?

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      It’s kind of the definition of what the US does and has done effectively since the day after independence.

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        Yep. We need a pitchfork party or we need to remove most of the dems from the democratic party. And all zionists need to be removed from every role of influence in our society. Then we need to gut the GOP like a fish.

        If any of that is not possible we need accelerationism and then to rebuild until it is.

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      Sorry, full on all of your names, just like all the Germans that allowed the Nazis to do what they did, or any of the other examples. Unlike other countries y’all can actual buy weapons too, so it’s even worse - at least the Russians can’t just go and buy a gun around the block.

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    US just made it Total War, IRGC are hardcore fundamentalists, they’re not above poisoning an entire states water supply and you just gave them casus belli.

    Good work Orange Man.

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      Israel and the US had already struck schools, hospitals, bridges, desalination plants and other civilian infrastructure. The “hardcore fundamentalists” of Iran have shown massive restraint considering what had already been done to them before the supposed ceasefire. They have more respect for the civilian life of their enemies than the US ever has in it’s history.

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      Uh, in case you weren’t aware, they are poisoning all of our water here in the US as well.