• Foxer@lemmy.ca
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      Sure, then the next time a democrats in we can kill them! Then the next republican! Then the next democrat! And maybe put a bullet in Obama just because! Right? That’s how freedom and democracy works

      Crap like this and calling everyone a Nazis why you lost the election. The left has become focused on bigotry and hatred and violence. The way you get rid of trump isn’t by shooting him it’s by becoming normal healthy mentally sound people again and proposing reasonable and intelligent alternatives. Begging for someone to kill the leader of the country who was duly elected is not a sensible or sane alternative

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          I guess personal attacks are your way of coping with the fact you can’t refute what was said and you’re angry I was correct. Well if that makes you feel better or lets you sleep at night I guess you got to do what you got to do

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        Your account is barely a week old and you’ve managed to piss off a lot of people. It’s amazing that the left always gets blamed for the lack of progress when the right is constantly finding new ways to dismember progress as crudely and primitively as possible. If you don’t want the left to focus on bigotry, hatred, and violence, then you need to stop contributing to those issues and be an actual decent human being maybe we wouldn’t focus on it so much then 😉

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          The fact is it would appear around here that unless you tow the line and save the stuff the left likes to hear people will attack you pretty mercilessly. I didn’t really come here to be liked. I came here thinking that there would be opportunity for intelligent conversation. And it’s Canadian was appealed to me.

          But what I’m finding is a lot of hatred bigotry and if you don’t say the left thing and you’ll be attacked

          The right is not contributing to those issues, the right is reacting to the bigotry and hatred etc. Kamala harris is entire campaign was that everyone Who didn’t agree with her was a Nazi and of course giggling. Hillary tried the same thing. Even here if I say something that doesn’t jive with the accepted truths instead of people addressing the points or making a counter argument what you see is nothing but personal attacks and people like you show up to say I should be towing the line.

          That’s not a problem with the right. That’s a problem with you and the rest of the people here who are on the left. I’m not launching into personal attacks when I reply to people yet you look at the number of personal attacks I’ve gotten just for stating facts which are true but aren’t to their liking

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            I guess that depends on your definition of facts. If you objectively observed human behavioral trends, where do you think you would see higher instances of racism, classism, bigotry, self-righteousness, sexism, and prejudice would lie? Or if we were to dig historically into the roots of those behaviors, or how pervasive to society they’ve been. I don’t think it’s down to intelligence, people can be very knowledgeable and capable of the most terrible things. People can understand very little about the world and still choose to say that their neighbor is a neighbor. Unfortunately, there are negative echo chambers that exist that perpetuate fear of the ‘other’ or the ‘unnatural’ or just…’it didn’t happen to me so I don’t believe it happened to you’ or ‘the way I fixed the issue was special because it was me but nobody else should be allowed to have it’.

            What is intelligent conversation to you by the way? Is it a discussion of true, verifiable facts (via peer reviewed research, holistic historical accounts, etc.) or one of initially civil opinion until someone throws a tantrum because they can’t convert the other?

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              My definition of facts tends to be an objective, verifiable reality or truth that can be proven to exist or have occurred. But the problem is you run into isn’t the definition of facts. It’s that people interpret facts and then it becomes subjective not objective.

              For example many on the left claim it’s impossible to be racist towards a white person. So once you allow that creative definition then the question of where is racism coming from becomes a subjective thing.

              There’s little doubt in my mind that of the last several years the vast majority of hatred and bigotry sexism and other negative things of a similar nature come from the left. In this very thread we have people on the left actively hoping that a duly elected president gets killed. You don’t see that anywhere nearly the same from the right. A simple example.

              Right wing websites or channels tend to allow any discussion and left when people are free to express their views. I just got banned from a channel on this forum for daring to suggest that the renegood shooting could legitimately be argued to be self-defense for the police officer. Way too controversial had to kick me off that channel. Didn’t say it rude or anything. I’m not calling you names here or saying you’re a bad person because I don’t share the same views as you although I think some of you views are Highly Questionable. And I address your points directly with reason. But take a look at the response to me in this thread

              There ought to be a warning note at the door saying left wing views only or the like 😁

              And to me, intelligent conversation centers around the idea of addressing the issues and points raised by the other person in a reasoned and logical way while respecting them even if they differ in one opinion, rather than focusing on attacking the person or using cheap debate techniques such as sea lioning.

              I mean we’re having a reasonably intelligent conversation right now aren’t we? You’re not calling me a capitalist running dog ignorant Pig Nazi fascist who wants to see all puppies and little children dead, and I’m not calling you a democrat 😆 (BAWAAAHAHA sorry couldn’t help it)

              people can disagree, even passionately, and still respect the other person’s opinion. And still respect the person. I don’t have to hate someone just because they think renee good was murdered and if you hate me because i think she wasn’t then there’s something wrong with you. (this is just an example btw, wasn’t stating how you feel about it).

              But I think some things should be universally accepted and if they’re not then there’s really not a lot of basis for discussion. Murder is bad, but the left is really pushing the idea that it isn’t these days. Killing a democratically elected president is bad yet here we are looking at people begging for it to happen and this is hardly unusual

              If we can’t even agree that murder is bad it makes it very hard to have an intelligent conversation doesn’t it

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    I’m no analyst but my best guess is that they are offering hope to a suffering world.

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    Is that sign what caused djt’s midnight rant last night about having 1000 missiles locked and loaded to end Iranian civilization if they killed him?

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    Lmao. I just scrolled past “Israel shares intelligence with US of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump” and now see this.

    I hope this photo was the whole ‘intelligence’…

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    I’m not an expert on the language, and I barely remember arabic scripts and alphabets, but I’m fairly certain the direct translation here isn’t even the common mistake of ‘down with/death to’. I think it’s the unambiguous ‘kill’. As in its saying literally “We will make Trump killed.”

    I’d love if someone who knows Farsi can confirm or refute my guess.

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      It’s an exact translation of the Persian. “Ma Trump ra khahim kosht” = “we are going to kill Trump”

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      Quick FYI: Iran is not part of the Arabic world and their language is unrelated. An Iranian friend once told me he would rather learn French than Arabic, as it would be easier for him.

      The Iranians have been at odds with their Arabic neighbors for a long time and have much closer links with the people of Afghanistan, for instance. Not that that would be enlightening to most people but I thought I would mention it because many people lump Iran together with “the Arabs” since it is still part of the Middle East.

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        They never said it was Arabic or related to Arabic. They said Farsi, which it is, and Arabic scripts, which Farsi uses.

        They’re completely different language families, but they use the Arabic alphabet. Kinda like how Finnic, Germanic, Romance, and Celtic languages all use the roman alphabet though being unrelated to each other.

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        Yes, though I stated ‘arabic script and alphabet’ as that’s the text style used. There are some different letters used but it’s based in the same alphabet system. Like how most European languages are based in the Roman alphabet. The English wouldn’t consider their language ‘Roman’.

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        FYI: they never said Arabic and Persian are related besides the alphabet

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    Honestly, I like this a lot more than the old death to America stuff I grew up hearing about. This new one is a unifying message, one most Americans can get behind.