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Just taking this opportunity to remind everyone that Louis C.K. has never made any tangible steps to make amends with the women he abused and yet he still goes on podcasts and talks about how the reporting on his sexual misconduct damaged his life and reputation as though he is the true victim
Source? From Wikipedia:
Both Corry and Schachner stated that C.K. privately apologized for his past behavior several years later.[142][144]
In response to The New York Times reporting, C.K. released a statement apologizing and admitting guilt, writing, “These stories are true” and saying that while he initially thought “it was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first”, he went on to express remorse, stating, “the power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.”
Yeah out of all of the people, Louis has done his best to make amends. He did wrong, but we shouldn’t shame someone for apologizing and doing his best to make it right.
I loved his comedy before, and was heartbroken when I learned. I payer close attention to it. I believe what he said, he never even considered or thought about coersion, that the women weren’t comfortable. He learned he was wrong and not knowing wasn’t an excuse. Out of everyone, we should hope more men learn from Louis. He took the hard but honorable path. Is he fully redeemed? Only he can know, but he’s working on it.
I disagree. Firstly, if you want a masterclass on repentance, see Dan Harmon’s apology. Made actual tangible steps to better himself, and devoted an entire podcast episode to apologizing, and spent about 0 seconds of that podcast feeling sorry for himself or lamenting that he got caught, or complaining about the financial effect it had on him. Plus, he doesn’t deny the story of the woman he harrassed.
None of this is true for Louis CK. He says “everything they say is true”, but then every chance he gets on his gigantic public platform, he repeats the blatant lie that he got consent. He didn’t. In none of the women he harrassed’s stories, he asks for consent. They deny that he asked for consent. All of them. And in his “apologies” he keeps repeating that he asked for consent. That’s not an apology, that’s just a lie.
His “apologies” are mostly made up of three parts. The first is a sneaky denial of the victim’s stories, the second he spends some time complaining about how this makes him feel, and how it affected him financially, and that he’s looking to get back on top of things and better his situation. And then the third is where he explains that there’s nothing he can do to make the world tangibly a better place (like, idk, staying the fuck away, donating to a charity for victims of sexual assault, trying to do anything to fix the careers he destroyed), and that all he can really do are these vague platitudes that help no one like (I wish I were making this up) “shaking one hand at a time”.
It’s hard for me to think of a worse realistic public apology. Maybe “I didn’t do it, but I’m sorry if you feel I hurt you” although that’s already pretty close to what Louis CK is doing.
This guy did a very long series of video Essays about why Louis behavior post accusations isn’t so black and white.
It’s very long though.
I’m sure it isn’t, nothing like this ever will be anything but shades of grey. Thanks, I’ll check them out
I think he makes some very good points but I also think it could have been about 1/3 as long if it was better edited.
“without asking first” they said no, by the way. and he sexually harassed them anyway. he specifically crafts his words to make it sound like he got consent, when he very much didn’t
they said no, by the way
I haven’t heard this story. You got a link?
I have seen him on a few podcasts talking about his shame and steps he has taken to realise the full impact of what he did and how he has changed
Your comment does seem to confirm TheBlindPew’s point, that it’s all about him. Did he apologize to the women?
I mean in fairness he was the one on the podcast and was potentially asked about it… I have no idea what he did or didn’t with the women but I would hope he has tried to apologize personally
He did. Multiple times from what I understand.
No idea, that not something most people would do publicly
He’s a public figure who sexually assaulted public figures… In those situations, they usually do publicly apologize.
Well if you feel he hasn’t done enough you should probably avoid supporting him I guess
Pretty loose definition of sexual assault you are using also
I honestly fucking hate that you’re making me look this shit up and read about it again. It’s was not just over the phone:
As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.
They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html
Sounds like he asked for consent to me
There is the question of if the power dynamic made it inappropriate obviously
Definitely not sexual assault in my eyes, watching someone jack off isn’t the end of the world, there is a reason there was no charges or conviction
There’s also the fact that he also had to “apologize” for attempts to cover it up and make sure it didn’t go public by pressuring victims (or had his manager doing it). Only apologized after someone finally did go public with evidence.
this is 2026. nuance is gone in these times now. people are either 100% good or 100% evil.
no in between, anymore unfortunately.
unfortunately
Sorry, you think it’s “unfortunate” that sex pests are being called out now? This isn’t about someone being 100% good or evil at all, it’s so much simpler than that.
I just never found him funny, the fat freckled loser.
Crazy how many people below you are defending this piece of shit and regurgitating the lies he’s spread over the years. It’s just pathetic.
Picture this, a phone you can just …hang up.
What is this in reference to? Are you suggesting that his victims could have just “hung up”? Are you (and apparently ten other people who upvoted this) under the impression that he assaulted those women over the phone?
Because yeah, no, that’s not what happened.
I think this is more a response to the title
He did two things, neither of which qualify as sexual assault, IMO.
- He masturbated while talking to some women over the phone.
- He masturbated at a party after asking for consent. No one said no.
I’m not saying what he did was appropriate, but he really is at the far side of the “me too” spectrum compared to someone like Harvey Weinstein. The negative press and other consequences he experienced and continues to experience feel very much like an overreaction.
As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.
They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/arts/television/louis-ck-sexual-misconduct.html
Literally the first paragraphs of the article
Yeah no, he did it in person
Both of these things are absolutely sexual assault without consent. It doesn’t matter whether you personally believe that ‘not saying no’ is consent, if the other party in the interaction did not actively want to engage in these sexual acts with him then he did not have consent, and he should not have attempted to engage in them.
It doesn’t matter if there are much worse people who have done much worse things, what he did is still bad, and it doesn’t make the response to what he did ‘an overreaction’.
He stood in a doorway and blocked someone in while masturbating. The only way out was through him. Don’t fall for his shit.
He also lied and manipulated public opinion after some things were revealed. The closest he got to an apology was toddler-like soooooorry.
compared to someone like Harvey Weinstein
I don’t know anything about what Louis C K did, but the fact that you felt you needed to compare him to WEINSTEIN to downplay it doesn’t look good to me.
Because Weinstein literally manipulated, blackmailed, and raped women - a true monster. That’s quite a huge difference between what he and Louis C.K. did, but he’s ostracized just the same.
Some people just cannot escape this kind of virtuous blackhole - apologies and amends are just never enough, because nothing is for some people.
I bet victims of less serious sexual assaults are so thankful they didn’t get Weinstein’d. Can we really even call them victims if they didn’t get full-on raped?
Do they refer to themselves as victims? They didn’t feel need to seek punitive justice, and as far as I know don’t make rounds publicizing their stories. Sure it was all publicized, but at what point is a mistake a mistake between adults? Looking through the comments people are hardpressed to “forgive” like there are actual puritans walking among us. Louis C.K. didn’t harm anyone involved, immediately admitted to it all, and apologized.
What else would you call “people who experienced a sexual assault and or harassment?”
Do they need to look and act more like victims for you to recognize them as such?
What do you mean, “both are ostracized the same”?
Weinstein raped people, was convicted, and went to prison.
No one to my knowledge is saying CK deserves to serve time.
The only ‘punishment’ they received in common was public condemnation.
And I have no interest in the argument that what CK did wasn’t “bad enough” for that - when that is the only consequence he is really eligible for.
…and per the post’s point, it doesn’t really even look like it was much of a consequence, unfortunately.
I certainly will never watch or listen to anything he is in again.
I think CK deserves to at least be a registered sex offender.
Fair.
Right, Weinstein is a rapist monster so they should let the suffering artists do a little bit of sexual assault.
That’s such a disingenuous reading of the above comments.
What do you suggest, burning him at the stake? Maybe a nice public hanging.
Him losing his public career forever would have sufficed.
Oh, didn’t realise it was out, yet. Nice!
