Trump helps rich people. Establishment Dems are either owned by, or terrified of rich people.
That’s it. Simple.
They are all older than the polio vaccine and have no idea how technology works or social media
The duopoly of 2 pro-capitalist parties must end.
The United States effectively has a one-party system, the business party, with two factions, Republicans and Democrats.
- Noam Chomsky
Yes, we have one party here. But so does America. Except, with typical extravagance, they have two of them!
- Julius Nyerere (first Prime Minister and President of Tanzania)
I think Americans are good, but America will be taken over and destroyed from the inside by the Zionist lobby. The Americans do not see this. They are getting decadent. Zionists will use this to destroy them.
- Muammar al-Gaddafi
The ratchet effect exists because leftists would rather bitch every general election and allow Republicans to be elected, while simultaneously not participating in the primaries.
The fascists knew the primaries were the secret, and their voters are generally loyal in November. Every member of the GOP that opposes Trump is removed in the primaries, and the party moves further right.
Democrats think republican voters are paying attention as closely as they do and not, in fact, just waiting to be told what to believe and how to think about it.
The Dem party is an enrichment cult that happens to tackle a few social issues.
Democrats are controlled opposition, and have been for a long time.
The Dems exist to prevent the rightward slide from ever shifting back. That is why they fight harder against progressives than Republicans.
Exactly. They are being quiet because they are being told to do so.
I want to preface this by saying that I think the democrats have no fucking idea how to do messaging and opposition.
But even if they did, we live in a system that wants their message to be ignored. Anything a politician says that is bad for business will not be televised. Or twisted to make them sound crazy. They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.
I used to work in politics, it is next to impossible to get your message out if people with money don’t want your message heard. The most important messaging is free media, as in the news and social media. Both of those have heavy corporate backing trying to control the narrative. Even the most progressive DSA politician has a hell of a time getting their real message through a controlled information stream.
The Dumbocrats are perpetual failures mixed in with some dino’s but the media is a bigger issue, imo.
They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.
This is the biggest problem. And it’s not just legacy media, but also modern media. Zuck, Musk, and fucking Spez control basically all the social media that isn’t the fediverse. All fascists or fascist-wannabes.
It’s always funny to see DSA types coopt Trump language.
You’ll have to expand on that thought because I don’t know what you’re getting at. People have been angry at the media long before trump, its trump that coopted it to get votes.
I have to explain why Dumbocrats is Trump speak?
I don’t make a point of explaining things that are obvious.
Democrats like Democrats who are Democrats.
Democrats in their eyes mean closeted fascist rethuglicans who are all talk and no action, hardly do any work to confront those less fortunate and both parties are willing allowing hundreds of innocuous Palestinians get brutally disembowelled and tooled into human shields.
The same kind of gutless white trash dirtbag that Tyrant Trump and his fascist regime of bloated war criminals and planet killers choose to dominion over
Democrats hate DSA because they are Democrats
Democrats in this case being truly devoted and compassionate leaders and activists who are actively trying to undo the intensive damage and corruption done by conservatives and conservative embezzler, vouching to lower prices, sending fresh supplies and insurance for those in need, trying to keep out highly dangerous and homicidal officials, taking a stance on Republican policies and how imperialistic and tyrannically sadist it is, they are everything a moderate chunk of the left side of the party are SUPPOSED to do!
Hakeem Jeffries trying to distance himself from them really show which political ideology he really represents.
Lets just say it’s incredibly wrong, yet also presented as the opposite of “wrong”! You know who I’m talking about.
they just cant stand having a happy population. its gotta be strifed for those losers
it’s almost like a two party system was a bad idea
It’s not a two-party system. It’s a one-party system disguised as a two-party system.
It’s not the Democrats vs the Republicans
It’s the oligarchs vs the people.
The democratic party is overflowing with oligarch sychophants.
Congress is full of people who will talk about progressive points, then vote the other way.
It’s a consequence of our voting system.
If two parties that have similar ideals (call it A1 and A2) enter an election with another opposing party (call it B1), benefits the opponent, because people who agree with either A1 or A2 can only vote for one.
You can end up in a position where 30% of people vote for A1, 30% for A2, and 40% for B1. Because A1 and A2 were so similar, neither of them can achieve plurality, despite their message itself being more popular, and the race goes to B1.
Btw, back in 2000, the Green party got enough votes in Florida that, had they instead voted for Gore, the whole “chad” debacle would’ve been a non-issue. I guess Gore wasn’t environmentalist enough for them. Bush/Cheney ended up winning…and they certainly were not environmentalist in the least.
I credit this for being the historical turning point where everything really started going to shit. Bush v Gore and the chads. And thus, to this day, I’m a tree-hugging hippy who will gladly say: fuck the green party.
…To take it a step further, in order to attract centrist or opponent voters, the party has to be moderate/centrist. It cannot be exceedingly progressive, or it will lose its more moderate members.
In essence, the voting system causes two party systems, and the “big tent” party causes the big tent to suck and always move opposite the driection it really should.
Almost? Politics isn’t a sporting event. Seeing them turn everything into black or white is so close minded. Most things have many shades of grey. We should have that many candidates to choose from.
i should’ve added an /s
Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil ‘geniuses’.
Yes! IMO the ‘evil geniuses’ had no effect whatsoever. Trump just wins by default when the Democrats run unpopular candidates.
I’ve been saying this for almost ten years now. Trump is not a popular candidate and never has been. In '16 he got fewer votes than Romney did in '12. If everyone who voted for Obama had voted for Clinton, Trump never would have won. The same is true with '20 vs. '24: if everyone who voted for Biden had voted for Harris, Trump never would have won the second time.
I also don’t think Biden was ever that popular; I think any of the Democratic candidates would have won in 2020. I told anyone who would listen at the time, “Biden is a bad choice, some shit could heat up in Israel, and he’s very out of touch with the Democratic base on that issue, and it could prevent him from getting re-elected.” I will say, I didn’t think Trump would get re-elected after J6, I thought it would be some other Republican. But, it also felt like the Democrats also never really went after Trump for what he did on J6 so.
Anyway, I guess what I’m saying is I agree and I’m glad to hear other people say it. The Democrats are too willing to compromise with Republicans who never compromise with them, and it keeps losing them elections. So even though Americans as we actually exist are reasonably progressive on most issues (legalizing weed and having universal healthcare poll higher than any sitting politician, there are about 1.5x as many registered Dems as Reps in this country, etc), we’re stuck with an extremely regressive government. That’s the context that leads to progressives like Mamdani winning in “upset” victories and the Democratic leadership is all surprised.
I’d say it’s entirely dems fault as they were dropping the ball consistently since years. Trump should’ve been an easy opponent but he ended up as president second time
People wanted change. Trump promised change, the democrats promised more of the same.
Maybe democrats should promise change?
I think the detrimental part was avoiding any polarising subject that could alienate their core electorate. They wanted to retain it so much that they forgot about the general population. And then came Trump promising changes in areas general public had problems with. He was mostly lying, but he was lying about the right topics.
So it came down to the choice: Maybe a lying republican jackass, or total democrat apathy.
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My opinion on that is totally relevant to my opinion on this. /s
Next time we disagree, please bring a valid argument instead to discrediting because of something i said somewhere else.
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Yeah. There was this drunk driver that hit a kid. Stupid parents. It’s just the result of incompetence of the parenting party than a result of drunk driving.
Yeah. Except the parents insisted their child play in the middle of the street at 1am and instead of condemning the drunk driver, they claim drunk driving is part of life
They lost to Donald fucking Trump. The biggest loser of all time. And they lost twice.
I dont think that is a fair comparison. Also i am not saying it is only the fault of the opposing party, i’m saying it is as much as. It is naive to think this would have been able no matter what the Democratic party did in the years/decades leading up to the first Trump presidency. Sure it is easy to talk in hindsight, I’ll give them that. I’m also not saying they wanted this to happen. But if the parents of the drunk driver never gave their child a good talk on the dangers of drinking, that accident is partly theirs to blame too.
Instead of attacking? Are you cowboys ok? Apparently you still don’t understand shit if this is the trash that gets posted. Wake. The. Fuck. Up.
You live in a violent dictatorship, there is no voting system you fucking dipshits.
Yeah ikr.
Trump is depriving people from affordable healthcare, living environments, food storage, equal rights, sterile air quality .etc, and he’s pretty much the ambassador of the many despicably graphic human trafficking ring formed by Epstein that his posse is going out of their way to shun from the public eye.
But oh no! Zohran is chilling with furries!!! WHAT A FREAK!!! WORSE THAN A CHILD RAPIST WHO ALSO TARIFFED COUNTRIES DURING WILDFIRES AND BLACKMAIL IRAN AFTER DROPPING COGNITIVE NUKES ON THEM!!!
I suffer heavily from learning difficulties, and even I know Republicans are completely inhuman warmongeries!
Just say you despise Americans and stop pretending to want better for them
Death to America.
Yes I do from the bottom of my heart, especially because my country is a US colony. Am I not allowed to hate burgerman?
If we didn’t despise you before, we do now.
Trust me no one missed that. Bigots can get fucked.
“I can’t believe you hate us for making the planet inhospitable and starting countless illegal wars of aggression over the past 80 years and genociding multiple peoples in multiple countries and couping socialist projects and installing fascist dictators and… You guys are just bigoted!! 😤”
Fuck off, lmao.
Yeah every single American, even those who’ve put in effort trying to push back at fascism, is at fault for wars caused decades before they were even born.
You’re bigoted.
Where’s the effort, lmao?
I don’t see any striking, rioting or vigilantism.
I’m bigoted against the country who’s threatening to invade my country and who continues to spread terror around the globe?
Fuck off too, lmao.
American education system at work of you think that’s what a bigot is.
Because they are, for the most part, wealth class. Average citizen getting robbed or screwed over isn’t a concern.
Why rock the boat and risk getting noticed in a negative way when you can do nothing and enjoy your privileged place!
They are complicit controlled opposition. Their only job is to keep the left out of power. That’s why they’re more upset about socialists than Trump, ultimately Trump is on their side and the socialists are not.
Democrats have been setting out to lose since Obama left office. Trump 2020 was the only one to beat them at their own game.
Last I checked there were about 50% more registered Democrats than registered Republicans in the USA. Given those kind of numbers, it’s actually impressive that the Republicans ever win any elections at all; and it takes a lot of both Democratic incompetence and Republican gerrymandering.
Oh, they were losing while Obama was president too. A Supreme Court Justice and the Heritage Foundation’s health insurance reforms (aka Obamacare/ACA) come to mind.
