Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, a vocal critic Donald Trump, was reelected Sunday in a result that provides relief to critics of widening U.S. influence in Latin America.
With 100% of the vote counted, Brazil’s electoral court announced that the soon to be 81-year-old Lula had a lead of nearly 4.4 million votes over opponent Flávio Bolsonaro, giving him 51.8% of the total vote. Bolsonaro quickly refused to concede defeat and asked for the election results to be annulled after an evening of chaos at some polling places that followed a last-minute decision to extend voting by two hours.
Bolsonaro is the son of former President Jair Bolsonaro, whom Lula defeated to take the presidency in 2022.
Lula’s triumph bucks a regional trend of victories for right-of-center presidential candidates allied with Trump. It also means Latin America’s largest economy, with a GDP of $2.6 trillion per year, will likely continue defying Trump’s demands, despite the pressure of increased tariffs.
You Americans better fucking vote like the Brazilians. Congrats Lula and carry on exporting and filling the massive holes the MAGA fucknuts opened for you.
Unfortunately the majority of deputies and senators are from Bolsonaro’s party. Lula’s win was a huge victory, but we still have a lot to fight for here in Brazil.
The good thing is that Lula’s party learned how to comunicate through social media, this helped him TREMENDOUSLY in his victory.
Good things democrats are running ads throwing trans people into the meat grinder for no reason. When they don’t even have to talk about trans people when they should be talking about the fact that Donald Trump has raped children and has ducked the ENTIRE economy. But Dems are going to do there best to try and shit brain themselves out of a sure fire victory.
Edit: Also congratulations to Brazil from an embattled American.
My big worry is that since Dick Cheney passed away, who are the the Dems going to parade around on the campaign trail with and receive glowing endorsements from? Henry Kissinger and Adolf Hitler are also dead. Maybe they can get one of Trump’s kids to endorse them but that seems like a bit of a stretch.
What ads? All I’ve seen are R attack ads spouting nonsense and transgender people.
Crazy how you can win by standing for something instead of twerking for fascists. Can’t relate due to being American.
Here’s a playbook of the Rights response to this.
- Say he cheated. Over and over and over and over again.
- Be completely unwilling to accept actual evidence that proves there was no cheating.
- Act outraged and suggest or imply that physical violence is an acceptable response.
- Never ever, ever admit you were and are wrong.
Why is it always the right wingers that are the worst losers?
It’s the other way around. Right wing politics and especially fascism are simply an extension of whining and stomping feet. Once you notice the links between the two they are impossible to unsee.
Right wing philosophy boils down to “obey me or else”.
The origin of the words left and right in a political context comes from the French Revolution. Specifically from the events of the Estates General, and the writing of the failed constitution of 1789.
The first vote, “Should the Monarch have an absolute veto over laws passed?” was determined by seating. Those in favor (the nobility and clergy from the richer areas) sat to the right of the speaker’s podium, those opposed (people who wanted democracy, which included the some of the country nobles, country clergy, and the near entirety of the third estate) sat to the left.
This pattern repeated on most questions, those who supported monarchy sat to the right, democracy to the left. The newspapers, which were recently completely freed of censorship, started using left and right as shorthand for the two sides.
The philosophers then stepped in. Tomas Paine and Edmund Burke for two English language examples. Paine actually traveled to France and served in the legislature, despite not speaking French. Edmund Burke stayed in England and wrote about how the masses needed to be controlled by their betters, who should be selected not by birth, but by wealth. Burke was not a noble, but he was rich.
Edmund Burke is the father of Conservatism. He was somewhat explicit that the thing he wanted to conserve, was power over others. Later writers have obfuscated things a bit, but if you look, the message is the same.
So, when a right-winger loses, it’s someone who really wants unchecked control over others being told to fuck off.
Left and right thinking derive from religious context dating back even before Judaism. Left represents living with free will as professed in esoteric ideologies while right represents ideologies professing living under ethical codes. Even within the occult ideologies there is left-hand path and right-hand path. Although, in that context left-hand path represents the worst of all evil.
Yeah, a lot of the ancient occult wisdom was made up in the last couple of centuries. Con artists saturate that space, or rather, they created that space.
But Left and Right in a political context is directly traceable to the French Revolution and the events of 1789, and is well documented because of the removal of censorship on newspapers that I had mentioned.
Such condescension and misrepresentation of my message.
Left and right handed in context of spirituality dates to tantric origins. Vāmācāra and Dakṣiṇācāra are Sanskrit defining those very terms. I happen to know this based on my years of studies. While it was later reused by occultists in the late 1800s it appears the same is true during the late 1700s as well.
When researching maybe learn to invest your time in research rather than performing a 60 second internet search only to wind up on Wikipedia. Better to actually educate yourself, and others, on scholarly works rather than take the easy path of a charlatan to appear intelligent on a forum.
If they possessed the ability to be mature they wouldn’t be right wingers in the first place.
Right wing philosophy is at it’s core a lie. Any validity in the process threatens their ability to accumulate and consolidate power. So they must seek to make the process seem invalid at every turn.
I like to imagine the reaction of different people being told “no.” Like someone who is trying to rob you versus someone who is trying to help you. It’s fury versus disappointment.
How does a far-right nut job get that many votes? Lula isn’t a saint by any stretch of the imagination from what I understand, but damn, man, when the choice is crazy dictatory 2.0, the choice is easy.
Well, how did a known child-rapist and convicted felon get (re)elected? Also was an easy choice, but I guess a black woman was too far, they’d rather have the child fucker.
Its almost like putting a former DA as the candidate for left leaning electorate was a bad choice.
Nah the Blue MAGA people would rather infantalize her and point to her race and gender as her reason for losing. Bill Maher would be so proud.
It’s because the far-right nut jobs friends control the digital media landscape.
IDK how did Trump get elected? Oh I know propaganda and a solid chunk of humans being dumber than my stupidest cat, who I should note almost died as a baby due to not even recognizing wet food as food and to this day only eats dry food because that’s what I trained him to eat I have shoved chicken in his mouth and he spat it out.
I’d prefer it if someone other than Lula could keep the fascists out of power. Still, it bought Brazil a few more years.
Why are these little fascists always sore loosers?
When you’re against democracy, it would be weird to respect the democratic process. Fascists will always try to circumvent the rules as long as they’re not in their favour, simply because fascists don’t respect anyone but themselves.
“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism; they will abandon democracy.”
I would extend this liberals who are simply NIMBY about fascism. They think Azov Brigade are “heroes”.
“Democracy” to the West is just a cudgel to steal natural resources, a selective privilege enjoyed on the backs of the oppressed.
Freedom of speech, press, media and free elections are all constantly threatened under autocratic, dictatorial and conservative governments. We’ve seen enough striking examples in recent times. Trump, Orban, Bolsonaro, Vučić, Putin, Milei, Maduro etc. Those certainly are working on or tried to abolish said institutions even by trying insurrections (Bolsonaro, Trump). Yes, you’re correct by stating that a democracy is not automatically just but I’d always choose the candidate/party that upholds democratic values. Better for the environment and lower and middle class people. Not regarding the bad politics Biden gov had in some regards, they were unquestionably and immeasurably better for the common people, poor people around the world (see USAID), the world economy and the environment than those of the orange menace.
And yes the Ukraine had/has a Nazi problem, but so does about every other democracy. Why should we shun all people of a country because of a minority of idiots?
All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the government. They can’t vote. Men can’t even leave to escape this fascist death cult. You’re fucking deluded.
The entire problem is that small hateful minority has control of the government, and has never let go since their 2014 coup.
We thought this was over when Zelensky campaigned and won on peace through the Minsk Agreement, but he had no control from day one. Zelensky is now a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to these “minority of idiots”.
Oh yeah, and U.S.A.I.D. also kidnapped homeless people to torture to death for practice with fascist dictators. The “aid” isn’t all sacks of food.
Lmao republican
Close, tankie
Cause they cheat and still lose and assume the other person must have cheated more.
Because they do all manner of funny business and fear being caught and ending up in jail when they’re out of power or they can’t hide behind a defense of “interference in elections” to avoid the Justice System investigating and prosecuting them.
I mean, just look at how Netanyahu is holding to power in Israel on the backs of over a hundred thousand dead Palestinians just to avoid the Corruption case against him.
The same reasons school yard bullies are quick to cry when someone punches them back
If it’s loose and sore seek medical help!
Because their path to power always involves exploiting good will and benefit of the doubt.
They’re all cry bullies, they act tough as long as there’s no resistance, but if they don’t win they’ll say anything they think of to change a result or make an excuse.
The only reason they have any followers is people think they’re strong. So they can never admit they lost, there’s always has to be some bullshit to blame it on.
If they admit they’re not the majority. There goes most of their followers, because their followers just want strength and to identify as a winner.
Oddly enough, some are more so than others. Take Orban for example. While not shy of all sorts of shady means to bend the election to his will, when all of that did not suffice anymore, he simply conceded defeat. Also the Serbian autocrat Vucic appears to accept defeat. Maybe he is afraid of facing the fate of other autocrats in case he is trying to overthrow anything.
It takes special liberal gymnastics to leap over 80% of the dictatorships America is directly arming to land on these half-baked examples.
I have no idea what you are talking about, above poster was posting about fascists always being sore losers. Those are just two relevant examples from Europe that occurred very recently. They are not representative but they do prove a point that fascists are sometimes much less entrenched in power than they want to make everyone believed to be. Also Vucic was hardly “America’s” man, he played the US and Russia both at the same time.
I’m saying that liberals use democracy and fascism selectively. We have direct control over governments we’re directly arming, who are much worse examples, but their kneejerk war boner goes directly toward nations that haven’t already handed over all their natural resources.
Everything is about chipping away Russian aligned governments, ever toward the real goal.
“Liberals”, “the West” or"much worse examples" are all failing the point I was making before. I was mentioning that in Europe two authoritarians with fascist tendencies conceded to lost elections, after having failed to secure a majority even with underhanded attempts of influencing the outcome. Are you saying that this was not the case or that was not what they were?
But then, the real problem for you appears to be none of that but rather that those autocrats were aligned with Russia, right? Even though that is in the case of Vucic a bit of an overstatement, he played both sides really.
Good luck continuing to breathe
Wrong question. We already know the answer to that question. The key here is how Brasil fights back to squash Trumpism from their democracy. We may learn something.
Trump is not going to invite him to the next cannibal orgy.
Fear
Bolsonaro quickly refused to concede defeat and asked for the election results to be annulled
What a little bitch.
4.4 million votes. No recount is going to fix that.
Right? That’s a lot of votes, there’s no doubt he lost.
Probably all illegal immigrants. Does Brazil even have 4 million citizens?
/s
I guess that’s why he’s trying to have it annulled?
I have no idea what the situation is like on the ground, but since we’re talking about South America and the U.S. has Trump as president: A recount, no… but maybe a military coup.
Heaven forbid!
Brazil is much more capable to resist a US attack than Venezuela was
Let’s hope you’re right about that. I’m not so much worried about the U.S. itself as I am about the possibility that Bolsonaro Jr. might attempt a coup, just like his father… if about 50% of voters supported the autocrats, even a small amount of U.S. interference would be enough.
Also what a fuckin surprise /s
Yes, he was, thankfully, removed.
🇧🇷 🇧🇷 🇧🇷
Bolsonaro still has a backup plan that he has been crafting for a long time.
spoiler
A ligature made of napkins that’s strong enough to support his bodyweight.
What a save!
« This is unacceptable, we the far right cheated but not enough… We should cancel the election results so I could win with my us oligarchs friend and pardon my corrupt father. “ said bolsonaro.
Brazil and Serbia. Good on them. America, you’re up. I would include Israel but even the best possible government there fucking sucks balls.
if only we got some of this in Hong Kong…
Good
TIL Brazil has developed Yttrium deposits and industry. China does too and is restricting exports.
isnt yttrium the one element that is known for having basically 0 uses
Here is an example of how a political propagandist uses a simple troll to steer a conversation away from useful topics. Pay attention.
Notice how nobody is replying to Maeve’s observations? About some plausible pretexts that the neocons might use to convince Trump to authorise a US invasion of Brazil, even if it would be politically disastrous for him?
Ooo yes, Mr President, look at all the shiny yttrium! It will all be yours! China wants it, are you gonna let em have it?
Instead, all the conversational energy was used to correct an intentionally absurd statement.
Ferrite mat’l for circuit components… YAG lasers… Those are off the top of my head… Yes, there are uses.
YSZ is used in fuel cells and sensors.
No?
Off the top of my head, it’s used in high temperature superconductors.
Like your comment?
You could have just googled it.
