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    This is the whole crux of MAHA. Make health a completely personal choice by denying any external causes of disease and then when you completely cut any possible health assistance then that’s fine because health is a completely personal choice and responsibility and people should just try harder to he healthy

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      Didn’t forget the part where you get to blame people for their own illness! Being sick now becomes a moral failing because you didn’t do enough to stay healthy.

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        Being sick now becomes a moral failing because you didn’t do enough to stay healthy

        But if you do try to stay healthy (e.g. wearing a mask and social distancing during cold and flu season) you’re a $insult_of_the_week

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        Being sick is a moral failing just like being poor or being ugly. /S

        Btw, have y’all seen the mar-a-lago face? That one IS a personal choice. And WOW what a choice.

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      It’s “prosperity gospel” but for health instead of wealth. I’m healthy because I’m a good person and you’re not because you’re a bad person. It’s literally the same talking points too. Point at the minority of folks in a demographic who actually make genuinely bad decisions and apply that to the group as a whole.

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    He is completely wrong, while being right too. Americans could benefit from a better diet.

    Maybe the American government could provide proper health care and not support junk food industry.

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      Americans could benefit from a better diet.

      Sadly, yes, living a healthier lifestyle is going to be a person’s best option in the wake of health care being even more enshittified.

      Hard to do in a nation where there are food deserts, gym memberships a luxury, and the nearest health care provider is upwards of 50 miles away.

      This, to me, stinks of the same garbage people are fed about recycling, when we all know that it’s the billionaire class and their institutional, astronomical waste and energy usage that is the real problem, not individuals tossing out the dozen soda cans they drink in a week.

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        In my opinion this is why unhealthy foods should be taxed to all fuck and back. Don’t want to spend money on healthcare, tax what’s making people unhealthy. Then with that extra dosh maybe you could fund healthcare a little more. Unfortunately there is no population on earth who’d accept their luxuries being taxed like that.

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          The issue is that health is also a function of free time. Making good, healthful meals takes time and mental effort, and if you’re working two or even three jobs to make the bills, at the end of the day, you likely don’t have enough time or spoons to do much more than toss a pizza in the oven or make some cup ramen or whatever.

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            The reason fast foods are unhealthy isn’t because it’s impossible to make healthy fast food. It’s because unhealthy food hijacks the biological processes that make you want to eat and they are designed to make you eat more than you need to so that in turn you spend more on food. If we massively taxed unhealthy foods to the point where it cuts into profit margins healthy alternatives that fill the niche of “fast food” would come about.

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      yeah taking out the grain subsidies and moving them over to fruit and veg based on lowness of sugar content and highness of fiber and nutrient content. That might be something to do.

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        I get what you’re going for here, but the lowness of sugar isn’t really all that important if we’re talking whole fruits.

        Mangos for example would be considered high in sugar, but I would argue they shouldn’t be discriminated against in comparison to something like an apple. Mangos are also quite filling compared to something like a candy or juice of similar calorie content just like other lower calories fruits such as apples or strawberries.

        Potatoes and other starchy vegetables could potentially get a bad wrap too for similar reasons.

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          I mean if all factors are a part then mangos would get dinged by sugar but upped by fiber and nutrients and its not like any would get zero.

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      He is completely wrong, while being right too. Americans could benefit from a better diet.

      Yes. Let’s actually put some reigns on the food industry, sugar in bread is not normal. Also walkable places that have public transport, but the Auto and Food industries have the Government of America by the short and curlies.

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        the Auto and Food industries have the Government of America by the short and curlies. wallet.

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      people arnt eating cake 24/7, hes just being extremely ignorant out of touch like the rest of the gop, and he ons the grif ttoo.

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    Oh cool. Not eating cake will surely clear up the brain damage from my head trauma

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      This is somehow worse, the “let them eat cake” was said from a very out of touch person who just did not understand. While this is comming from someone who willingly is going out of their way to blame the peasants for the actions that they are doing to those same peasants.

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    That is absolutely useless advice. Guys, if you are worried about the cuts then simply just make more money to give to your insurance companies! Or ask daddy for a bigger trust fund.
    See, easy.

    Right, I’m tired after giving you that FREE advice so I’m off to my second holiday home for a week or two to recharge my batteries before my annual month summer holiday.

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      He isn’t ignorant. He doesn’t care. He’s vindictively robbing all of us blind. They don’t think any of this will be beneficial to any of us. We are not even a consideration.

      None of these greedy fucks are doing any of this because they’re incompetent. They’re doing it for $$$ and control, and they’ll get it, because we’re all still typing paragraphs into a social media site instead of murdering all of them.

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      Why? So he can see historians celebrating more men in history who didn’t deserve their power or fame?

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      No man, Yesterday I only didn’t eat 3 cakes and I was able to run a 12 mile drive to work… In my car! The other weekend I didn’t eat a wedding cake and that cured my diabetes that In didn’t even have!

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        Time out, why the hate for Bill Nye? Did I miss something or is this just a joke on “people who are less qualified than their titles lead you to believe”? If so, then carry on.

        On first read it sounds more like a list of shitty charlatans, of which I wouldn’t really apply to Bill even if he’s not as qualified as he would imply.

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          I would say, pleasantly, that Bill Nye suffers from one of the classic blunders of academia. Just because you’re smart about one specific niche subject in one specific niche field doesn’t mean you are smart about every subject in every field. Most scientists are quite honestly just as knowledgeable as the rest of us in any field that they didn’t academically study. That sounds like common sense, but once you have a PhD on your name you kind of forget it.

          Bill Nye is an expert mechanical engineer, and a middling to decent planetologist. Any subject beyond that and he’s just as good as you or me even though he speaks with an authoritative voice.

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            I felt like he started in the tradition of Mr. Wizard, who himself was a teacher who didn’t know the intricacies of every science, but knew how to put together a fantastic and accurate demonstration.

            But I think Nye is doing talk shows and shit now, which Mr. Wizard, I don’t think, would have tried to sell himself the same way. He really sold education.

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            Maybe that’s just because I haven’t seen anything from him super recently, so my opinion is biased with rose tinted glasses. What little Ive seen of him he seemed like an alright dude. Then again, that’s easily a tailored image of himself.

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          A lot of people claim to have had negative interactions with him in the wild, but I haven’t seen any proof yet. I’ve very suspicious that someone’s who educates about the dangerous of climate change has this much hearsay against them. I’ve also heard he gets a lot of off topic questions when he does talks and gets impatient with people. He doesn’t actually claim to be a scientist and if he gets questions that he didn’t prepare for, he’s not going to be able to give good answers.

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            In regards to the off topic question thing; that just sounds like a fairly normal person. I feel like anyone could get annoyed by being asked constantly about non-relevant stuff. Sure, some folks are very good at handling those things with grace and should be applauded for it, but I feel like that’s a noteworthy exception and not how most folks would react depending on the severity of course.

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          Dr Phil actually has a PHD or master’s (can’t remember which) in psychology, but if I remember right he’s had his license to practice either removed or he hasn’t done the due diligence on his part to maintain it. I can’t remember which. Apparently he also did a lot of sketchy shit with his clients including forming relationships with them prior to his time on TV. Behind the Bastards did a multi-part series on him that’s worth listening to.

          The worst part about Dr. Oz is that he was an exceptionally skilled thoracic surgeon, apparently one of the best in a field we are severely lacking skilled practitioners in, and has done hundreds of operations. This is a man who has saved or extended hundreds of lives. He then gave all of that up to sell bullshit weight loss miracles to middle-aged moms. He literally stopped saving lives so he could actively harm others with his bullshit and questionable advice outside of his realm of expertise.

          I’d argue that Oz has done more direct harm to people on a larger scale than Dr. Phil could dream of. Again, there is a multi-part series on Behind the Bastards covering him that’s worth a listen.

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            i did a search, yea he has a PHD, hes only a consultant, so i doubt he can actually do clinical psychology, you need some kind of license for that. i have a cousin with PSY-D so she ok to pratice some form of it. i think you need more certification to start praticing psych.

            OZ saw the grift and getting millions per year is much better to him. DR OZ is more akin to actual MDS providing “exaggerated tests” diagnosis, LLMD(chronic lyme doctors) are something in his realm, the way they harm people is PRESCRIBING antibiotics for a non-existent infection, for months or even years, i went down the whole rabbit hole for this one time. plus advising on supplements of plant extracts which causes symptoms.

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        Phil McGraw is downright, possibly a toxic man to be taking any advice from. There have been longstanding allegations that drugs (maybe alcohol too) have been given to guest on his talk show before taping, while those on medications allegedly have had them withheld before taping. That is on top of the typical toxic workplace behavior that has been reported with similar type of environments.