Hoping someone might be able to help me out with this info, I’ve tried looking and can’t find a solid answer.
When you use the “Save and close group” feature of tab groups, do they
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Stay forever, no matter if you close Firefox, restart your pc, not used that group in months etc.
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Allow an unlimited, or at least a high number, of saved and closed tab groups.
I mainly ask because it specifically puts closed and saved tab groups in a section called “recent tab groups” which sounds suspiciously temporary.
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Me using the Tiled Tab groups add-on for 2 years now… Good-morning
This is mostly useless to me; I already enforce all tabs into unique containers to isolate browsing and website contexts from one another; while still allowing me to make exceptions to the rule and “unbreak” things if that’s causing an issue, but still keeping things isolated from the rest of the browsing.
As for Tab Management; I use two windows and a plugin; Tab Stash Plus; which collapses tabs I stash into a bookmark.
Every so often when I reach a critical mass of tabs I personally go through them and play “Keep/Toss” with more odds on Toss. Only useful tabs get stashed and are then searchable from the plugin.
In general; since this feature now presents a possibility of an extremely UNWANTED AI integration I will be setting the config to off and leaving it off…using a relevant config policy tool or plugin to enforce this to off if needed. I hate AI features that I didn’t ask for and this one definitely doesn’t seem like it’s going to be helpful nor compatible with my current workflow.
Not something I’ll ever use, but cool regardless
I already used it three times accidentally while rearranging tabs. Mostly annoying, I haven’t used them yet
I got a Stroke reading that. You used it 3 times but haven’t used it?
How do you unuse a tab group?
The three times were all accidental. Didn’t use it with intention yet
Happened to me too, but I really liked it so far
“You asked, we built it” --> “People keep shitting on us for our terrible decisions… Quick let’s do something people actually want to compensate ! Wait let’s also slap AI on it, I’m sure everyone will love that” (Mozilla being Mozilla I guess…)
People love to hate on Mozilla without knowing shit. Some of it is literally 4Chan grade manipulation as well.
Like the whole ToS debacle. People just aren’t interested in truth just rage 24/7
So they’re reintroducing a feature in 2025 that they added to Firefox in 2010 and subsequently removed in 2013. Such progress. Much wow.
So uhh, when are you introducing PWAs and easier profile management?
Isn’t profile management introduced like right now in the same release?
Is it? I will check when I am on my PC again.
Noooo it has AI garbage, what the hell.
I really need this feature, I have over 500 tabs open right now, I just hope it works well.
Desktop only? Sigh…
Yeah pretty sad. It would be a much more useful feature for me on mobile.
On desktop, I usually just create a new window for different types of stuff.
No easy way to organize my infinite tabs on mobile (as far as im aware).
Chromium browsers on mobile do this, but it’s also a bit weirdly complicated/frustrating to work with at times, I hope of Firefox get to it, they can make it super simple.
The folks over on IOS are waiting very patiently for extension support. Firefox folks taking their time.
Gave up waiting and use Orion for that. iOS is an after thought to them.
Apple won’t allow extensions for web browsers on their app store.
All browsers on iOS are Safari in disguise
I’m sure it’s much more complicated on iOS considering they are forced to use Webkit instead of Gecko.
Try the Orion browser for that, I like it
smart tab groups, a new AI-powered feature that suggests names and groups based on the tabs you have open.
Yeah sure ok. Did the community ask for this too?
I mean, why not?
They integrated accessibility focused, local, AI pretty well.
Loads of folks removeded about it because they were triggered by “AI”, but it’s essentially invisible, as it should be.
I hate naming things, that’s actually something AI is good at, hell yeah, let it name my shit for me please.
Then again, these communities are always full of Debby downers who hate on everything.
[Dr. Who meme format]
Is AI bad?
It Depends. Large corporate AI hosted at a data centre that consumes a nuclear reactor’s worth of power and a lake’s worth of water for cooling for the purpose of generating slop stolen from Artists and Writers? Yes.
Locally run embedded AI designed for a specific task to automate small processes or enhance the UI experience with little cost to local computing resources because it’s been properly optimised? No.
a datacenter is more efficient than lots of smaller individual computers doing calculations independently. They actually make their stuff as efficient as possible, otherwise it hurts margins. So, if you’re against datacenter AI because of power, then just stop using ai. If everyone ran locally, the efficiency would be significantly worse overall.
I actually hate what llms have become, but efficiency is still not a good way to compare a datacenter to a home computer.
A consumer would use a lower token AI compared to large datacenters. I am sure it does less environmental damage, because the home user doesnt need tap water for cooling.
Yeah for now I remain cautiously optimistic. I have not used their ai stuff once but it was also never shoved down my throat and my browsing experience has not been affected at all, and them finally listening to the community and implementing tabs grouping is just great. If they keep it that way I think we’ll be fine
I don’t care about AI when it’s doing minor things like this it’s when they’re shoving it down our throats and we don’t want it.
AI as a tool? Hell yeah.
AI to replace people? Fuck no.
For one second I thought Mozilla might have made something that wasn’t anti-feature… But OF COURSE it’s going to need to have AI 😑
Real.
ok, mozilla is at least doing stuff we want along with ai garbage now.
Thankfully, the useful changes trickle downstream to Waterfox, LibreWolf, Floorp, etc.
the beauty of foss
AI garbage seemingly pays the bills…
Seems like it creates bills, but also has enough hype behind it to generate investment/donation interest.
At least the AI runs locally, as opposed to sending everything to someone else’s computer for processing. Local translation in Firefox actually works quite well.
Except right now you lose all of your open tabs if you close the browser with the “X” on pc or if you shut the computer down.
To make it save your open tabs right now, you have to click the … and then select “exit”.
I think that’s an issue with your install, when I shut down my computer or press the x it restores tabs fine next time I open it.
If it’s with the install, it’s from a bad/corrupted update. FF has been on there for ages. Are you on windows 10? I’ve seen it’s a known issue because it’s findable if you Google it. Be a strange bit of a corrupt install, being that it’s the only issue and that it works as expected if you select “exit” instead of hitting the “X”. Regardless, if you’re also on 64bit win10 system and it works normally for you, I’ll do a clean install.
Do you have “open previous windows and tabs” ticked in settings? I’m also on 64bit win10 without the issue you describe.
Yes this is also on a 64 bit windows 10 install, so in theory yours should be functioning the same. Good luck getting that sorted as if you are like me and frequently use the same tabs that does sound like a pain
When I click history in the menu after reopening firefox, I have an option to restore previous session.
I’ve clicked history to get some pages back, but haven’t noticed a restore previous session option. Great if it’s there, but still a large bug that’s been present for quite a while.
Can’t you restore them with Ctrl + shift + T or maybe Ctrl + shift + N ?
Awesome!
Can you now please make it so that of I have over 100 tabs open that Firefox makes my computer die, even if all those tabs are all pre-killed by a tab closer?
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Still waiting for mobile, tab groups missing from Firefox mobile is the only reason I’m still using chrome
Was I signed up for some beta? I’ve had firefox groups for a.few weeks now.
And holy shit do I need em.
They do A/B testing for everything now. Why? No clue.
A/B testing a very effective mass testing ground, I’m surprised some people don’t do it. Amazon is probably doing a few dozen a/b tests constsntly
