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Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
I’ve largely come to believe that bad things don’t happen to evil people
They do, you just have to facilitate the happening.
Something something of the deed
This here. There is no karma and if there is it’s opposite
The original concept of karma has you receiving both punishment and reward for every bit of both good and bad karma from your past lives. Nothing you do in your current life is dealt with until your next incarnation.
All the evil scumbags must have been really good people in their last lives, then, since they do nothing but get rewarded in this one
Typical Liberal Americans.
Isn’t Biden an evil person? Is endorsing and contributing to a genocide no longer evil?
Take that shit back to Reddit and Twitter.
Never pity cancer. Fuck cancer.
The rest of your statement holds!
In fascist America, cancer gets Trump!
I’d feel sorry for the cancer
What if he is already a malignant tumor?
Cancer is an umbrella term for a huge variety of diseases and once you reach a certain age you’re likely to have at least one of them. It’s just not worth treating if you are in your 80s/90s.
I kind of think the “fuck cancer” online discourse is a bit misguided since it’s the price we pay to have regenerating cells.
Homie is really out here playing devil’s advocate on behalf of cancer.
What was it Norm MacDonald said? Either you win against cancer or it’s a tie, because you always take the cancer down with you. So cancer is really the underdog here.
Might be a side effect of being raised by an oncologist
“Fuck yeah! cancer.”
with the amount of preservatives he got from eating mcdonalds, its probably very difficult for him to get it.
Goven that cancer is just your own body, you don’t need to pity the cancer, as the cancer is also trump 🤓🤓
He probably will and we’ll have a big ol’ party!
Por que no los dos?
I guess I wasn’t thinking joe biden shouldn’t have cancer just that donald trump definitely should.
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
Honestly I’ve been wondering since the debates if he had a bad UTI when he crashed and burned. It’s not uncommon for them to cause confusion or even delirium in that age group and I seem to recall a lot of vague comments from his team saying he’d been ‘sick’.
Yeah “You’ve got stage 4 cancer. You won’t make it through 4 more years.” is probably the only way to get those old bluedog democrats to gtfo of office.
The PSA test is no longer suggested, as more people were injured from complications caused by procedures that false positives caused then people saved.
My dad almost died from a complication due to a biopsy. About 20 years later, he got prostate cancer which was detected without a PSA test, treated, and is now cancer free.
Good point. Biopsies can cause complications.
PSA is still recommended here (it’s cheap) but only its negative answer is considered reliable.
- PSA negative: all clear
- PSA positive: do a non-invasive scan and more blood tests, don’t immediately proceed to a biopsy
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Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP’s countdown:
What I want to know is how did Dr. Jill Biden miss stage five metastatic cancer or is this yet another coverup???
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden’s doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
No harm done
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
metastasis to the bone
Yeah, he’s not making it.
The guy’s also 82, so it’s not like he has a long road ahead of him regardless of this.
I’ve seen what chemo does to young, healthy people. Joe ain’t that.
While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease, the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive which allows for effective management.
Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.
I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.
I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.
No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.
Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.
He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.
Toward what end? I don’t think you’re thinking this through.
Evil conspiracy because of evil conspiracy, obviously.
Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.
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the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.
much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.
I heard recently it’s incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him
This is why after 60, I’m not going to try to be president. I’m retiring. Guy spent the last few good years he had stressed out running the country when he should’ve been playing bingo and sitting on a beach.
I’m told you absolutely can be president and still relax on your golf course while setting the world on fire through Shitter.
Fair play to him for taking the difficult route instead.Its fine, he was playing bingo and sitting in a bench while he was president. Also took a lot of naps and vacation days.
I was torn between president and walmart greeter
Pretty sure being “stressed out” is not the cause of cancer
Not saying it was, though there may be studies that actually do show that link. My remark was more that one should enjoy the time they have when they’re old by relaxing, not pushing themselves past their prime to control a future they won’t have any part of living in.
I think that’s not the point being made here. The point is that some people might prefer a calm, quiet life for their last years instead of having to deal with the stress of being president of one of the biggest countries on earth.
it does make diseases worst, but not a cause and can trigger things like latent herpes infections.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like…the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.
Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
Wow, downvote galore you have, people are horrible.
You want people to lie and say they are sad hes dieing?
TIL to not downvote is to lie.
Actually a good point
What are these comments? You people are vile.
With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?
I’m a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup
It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.
If that’s the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.
Somebody had to step up and save us from Bernie Sanders
Not even a funny joke.
When all the joy in life is gone, I’ll take any joke that eeks just a little bit of dopamine out of my brain.
… yeah, I feel that bud.
I’d assume that played a huge role in him choosing to step down.
So glad he wanted to run for a second term then, especially after promising to be a one term president. /sarcasm
He never promised. We lost when he won the 2020 primary
I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.
Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn’t make that promise.
I remember the promise and I also remember thinking “why the fuck are you even running if you won’t for a second term”
Exactly; it was always a lie that couldn’t be taken seriously
Compared to Trump winning? Which was the only viable other option during that term.
Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would’ve actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could’ve also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.
Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he’d be selfless enough to step aside. He might’ve said he’d be one term, but he was lying and that’s why no one took him seriously.
This was exactly my first thought.
And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.
He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC
Yeah if he was incapacitated because of drugs he should have let Kamala take over.
he had covid, at that time too.
That makes it worse not better…
cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.
It could have developed between regular prostate
massagesexams.
It’s going to be interesting to see how Trump will handle that state funeral
“Interesting” is a kind way to put that he’s going to be horrific and make it all about himself.
“Put his body in a tank for my parade.”
It would be kind of great if something were to steal the show on parade day.
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Lol
He’ll overshadow it with another military parade
I wish Joe well. Terrible thing to have to deal with.
Nah fuck him, he gave us Trump.
that’s not how any of this works
Like every election, the dems were elected because people expected them to stop the shit Trump started during his term and improve their material conditions. The dems failed to do so, which decreased turnout.
Don’t give me that “the dems were powerless to do anything but give Israel more money, end the rent moratorium, and divert covid funds to police when they controlled both congress and the presidency!” horseshit, we see exactly how much power the president has right now.
