Title basically. I was here at the very start of it all and really enjoyed it. However I felt it lost its uniqueness within a few months of mass migration and started turning a bit like reddit again so I deleted my old account. However Reddit has only gotten much much worse since, and Lemmy has stayed about the same. So here again.
It’s gotten a bit busier as far as new posts showing up go (been here since reddit api debacle) but we need like 4,000,000 more users, and then if we just held right there, we’d all be able to live happy little lives. There’s still just not enough people to support smaller, more niche instances.
On a side note: Doubly fuck reddit again. I don’t get on there to use it, but occasionally I’ll hop into an old sub looking for info. Got a notification that /humor deleted my post of a funny poem thing from 15 friggin years ago. One of only 2 posting I ever made that still occasionally got comments on.
Note that for most old-school forums, 40K MAU is absolutely top of the pile in activity. The only reason people expect these MAU on lemmy is just because reddit has it. And don’t forget that moar users, moar problems.
I feel it’s changing positively, as instance admins and our tool-sets mature, and more and more people are becoming permanent residents as they’re either permabanned on reddit (so they have no alternative) or they recognize the value of a system that is not and cannot be controlled by a corporate entity and they US billionaire interests behind it.
However I’m also concerned that our yet small size has protected us from truly existential issues like dedicated spam and propaganda orgs, especially those who would utilize GenAI to be more covert. I’ve already published tools like the fediseer to help prepare for this, but I really hope to see more people per-emptively getting ready for this. I see way too many doe-eyed admins firing up instances without a care in the world, open registration, no captchas, no botnet protections etc and they either burn out and close shop after a few months of firefighting, or get defederated, or they have to re-learn a painful lesson the rest of us did.
This does give me an idea, we do need a more holistic “So you want to open a threadiverse instance” guide to give such pointers to new admins and way to get support from others. Hmmm…
Lemmy/Piefed is starting to feel like reddit when it was most enjoyable. Actual communities gathering around common interests and real conversations around those topics. Moderation isn’t too far into the curated accepted response only zone that reddit fell into even before the API debacle. Meaning if you have a disagreement or differing opinion with someone you have to hash it out instead of the insta banhammer many subreddits implemented.
Also I kinda like that there’s a diverse age range of people here. Seems moreso than on reddit but that may be because there’s less of us altogether. So age stuff sticks out more.
It hasn’t changed too much. It was wild for a hot minute and then mellowed out. Some people feared it failed but it just stayed steady year after year.
It’s not just circlejerking about
Linuxcommunism anymore.I like it here, I only lurked on reddit. There isn’t much reason to comment when it seems that everyone was in a competition for “who can post the best zinger comment first”
Zinger? I hardly know her!
This deserves gold.
edit: you’re welcome!
But that competition exists everywhere even on Lemmy. Any platform that provides this system of comment votes and sort by most liked will always be like that.
True but right now the amount of users made commenting worthwhile to me too
TBH, not much.
Which pleases me. I actually donate to my instance every month in order to help keep it ad and algo-free.
I haven’t read all the comments in here, and probably won’t. But based on what I’ve seen so far, I’ll be the contrarian.
I first started actively participating on Lemmy maybe a few months before the API debacle, but I’d also been checking the place out a bit for a few months before even signing up.
This place was A LOT kinder then. Users were more apt to stand up for each other and call out bad behavior. Someone called another person a “fucking idiot” over an inconsequential difference of opinion and multiple people would be on top of that.
The API debacle itself meant a lot more users arriving at a faster pace, and they were mostly a good mix of all the different Reddit archetypes – the good and the bad. To me, it seems like it’s the in between Lemmy picks up the, shall I say, less appealing Rexitors. The ones that were permabanned for no reason at all they simply said they LOVE KITTENS – and then you see their toxicity here and that internal conflict strikes where you’re like “permabans shouldn’t be a thing, but in this case, I can kind of understand why it might’ve happened”.
Anyway, all this to say, back in the before times, the Fediverse felt a bit more distinct, like it had truly had its own generally amicable vibe and culture. Now, it feels like this is probably “Reddit-vibes” but from six months ago.
Not that I’m hating on Lemmy, obviously I’m still here, and it’s still currently the lesser of two evils.
Yes, it’s fair to day Lemmy used to be more friendly, but it also was more homogeneous. I think, for the quantity of people found, it’s still pretty civilized. I just admit, once, they author of some kind of “fuck you” message was me, and, while I still stand by that message, the moderators, probably the same person I replied to, banned me of that community. Fair, I guess.
Our bans are… less effective than Reddits. So it’s not just that we hand them out less.
Lemmy didn’t have much content at first so you would run out of things to read after a while. It felt friendly at first, but certain topics still set off people at lemmy to the point I thought about leaving. Then lemmy seemed to improve and I could talk about those topics again, but now there are more trolls (even ones that seem to follow you around since they troll each post or comment talking about something) and spam bots that weren’t there before. I think a lot of conflict on forums like this has to do with miscommunication, but sometimes people are just mean and there isn’t a fix.
I fart in your general direction. >:(
Has not changed all that much. Really depends on the instance you join.
It’s the same but I had to block a few users. Very Reddit-like in some ways. Glad karma isn’t a thing though.
Very little, if at all.
Diversity has increased by a lot. It’s not just circlejerking about Linux anymore. Only positives in my book.
I find a lot of the communities can be pretty negative. Lots of people talking about how bad things are. It would be nice to see more positive outlooks. But maybe that’s just a sign of the times.
true and the lunatic leftist fantasists have been put back in their box, but the population is less than 5% of what it peaked at in the early days
Yeah, I feel like when I first came here every third post was about Linux and every third post was about star trek. A lot of the remaining third was beans. Now only every tenth post is Linux and trek.
I posted about lentils today. Does that count?
So we need more beans…
That is one interpretation
Yeah, but what if you enjoy the Trek, Linux, and beans?
I use Mint, by the way.
Manjaro. Hate me.
I respect your life choices, even if I don’t agree with them.
Everyone has their preferences and that’s cool. I think we can respect their individual choices. The important thing is that they’re not talking about using Arch.
Can we discuss the bots? Lemmy’s communities are being over automated and I see bots reposting threads from Reddit and other junk usually from xitter
Are these tagged as bots?
Most of them are but there are outliers that come across like spam
I’ve been in fediverse since API debacle, I feel the same vibes as I do on Reddit, both the good parts and bad.
For example, same controversies on Reddit also exist here, and have the same talking points and flamewar nature. I had an opinion about Pitbulls (that an owner should be far more responsible than the average owner - I know, controversial take), which got me banned from that sub and several other furry related subs. Which is something that also happens on Reddit when you tick off a moderator of several subs
So for the most part, I’m just a lurker that comes here to get some memes. Sometimes I share my opinion if I feel like it. But I don’t necessarily feel that it’s an upgrade from Reddit in terms of communities.
Getting banned in communities you’ve never been to bc the admin disagreed with you in a public channel is keeping the Reddit pettiness alive.
Also, the lack of nuance is the same. If you have an opinion in a political comm, you basically have to write a novel describing your stance or people will take your brevity as an opening to attack you.
Still, there are some really great communities that respect diversity, are truly supportive, and kind that make me feel ok about the world.
The pettiness goes even farther than that. I’ve been banned from whole fucking instances because I downvoted bad content on /all. So not even interacting more than once or twice IN PASSING with a sub is enough for some power hungry twat to ban you from an instance with these petty tyrants
Sounds like you got banned from places that wouldn’t be worth hanging out at in the first place. Fuck em ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if someone is that quick to get triggered by a gesture of disagreement, they couldn’t possibly have a worthwhile community under their watchful gaze.










