• OwOarchist@pawb.social
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    Just turn down the simulation speed real low and run it at one tick per 20 years, then you can technically keep it going without such great expense. The people inside won’t notice the difference.

  • I’d say that whether or not it’s in a simulation doesn’t matter. If the beings you created were recognizable as people (human or otherwise) then they have rights and you’d be trampling those rights if you ended their existence. The creation of such life should not be done without an appropriate sense of responsibility.

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      Oh is that what it’s about. I thought it was the horror game or something. The advertising for it was so ambiguous I never really looked into it

      • pm me your puppies@anarchist.nexus
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        It’s hard to describe what it’s about without spoiling it, because the mystery of that universe is part of what draws you in. In a way, the comment you replied to is a major spoiler since you don’t

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        find out you’re in a “simulation” until near the end of the game.

        But it’s an incredible game that I recommend to any JRPG fan.

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    Intelligence isn’t the important factor there - consciousness is. Does it feel like something to be those entities in the simulation? If yes, then I’d argue that ending the simulation is like killing a person painlessly in their sleep.

    I personally don’t think ending the simulation is even the most troubling part. We could unintentionally create a simulation that’s effectively a hell and then populate it with entities that have subjective experiences we don’t realize exist. The only thing worse than ending a life is creating one just for it to suffer through its entire existence.

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      Didn’t scientists train brain cells to exclusively play Doom? It’s like their whole conscience is stuck in a video game version of hell through a brain in a vat experience.

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      We could unintentionally create a simulation that’s effectively a hell and then populate it with entities that have subjective experiences we don’t realize exist. The only thing worse than ending a life is creating one just for it to suffer through its entire existence.

      And this is basically the plot of the TV series Severance. Has me wondering how they intend to address it.

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      The only thing worse than ending a life is creating one just for it to suffer through its entire existence.

      Antinatalism entered the chat

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    the simulacrants wouldn’t realize the simulation is ever not running.

    Kurzgesagt made a video about how in a dying universe (from heat death) civilizations that uploaded their consciousness into a simulation could live forever, by intermittently running the simulation and pausing it for greater and greater amounts of time as expendable energy in the universe diminishes. The consciousness would not perceive the time the simulation isn’t running and to them things just go on and on for eternity.

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    One of the Minds in Ian M Banks’ last novel, The Hydrogen Sonata, faces and addresses exactly this problem. Much is at stake, so it’s a meaningful discussion.

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      You may be referring to the hells, but he had a discussion about having a Mind simulating a particular situation to the point where the participants were basically sentient. In that instance, I do not think it is ethical to end the simulation, but I think it would be ethical to freeze the simulation. If the whole simulation was paused and stored with the potential to be restarted, then no perceivable harm would come to the participants.

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    If you set the simulation to end before it has begun, do you dodge the question of ethics?