When will they ever learn?

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    20 hours ago

    Could someone PLEASE build an idiot proof way to permanently remove Edge from your system!?

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    23 hours ago

    If they were actively trying to push people towards Linux, would their choices look any different? Perplexing.

    IMO they’d be wise to take every step they can to make the OS feel like it belongs to the user, but more and more the attitude seems to be “it’s our OS, so we do what we want” which is their right, but it’s shit marketting that makes them feel more like Apple every day.

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      23 hours ago

      I do have a few other pet peewees too for Linux, despite having that on my ThinkPad.

      • GDB is pretty uncomfortable to use.
      • The only usable GDB GUI is a glorified webpage by none other, than Micro$lop.
      • Some low-level API (sound, input, etc.) are absolutely dogshit compared to their Windows counterparts (still haven’t found anything on how to specify to ALSA if I want to open a device other that default, and how exactly, just found a massive issue with Evdev, etc.).
      • Want something better than those? jUsT USe sDl, except SDL is kind of dogshit under Windows (DirectInput/XInput + DirectAudio instead of newer APIs), could not get its audio system working at all as people were instead suggesting me to use MP3 player DLLs instead of writing my own audio solutions, etc.
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      23 hours ago

      Honestly (and probably naïvely), what exactly is it that Windows can do that you couldn’t do on another OS? Why would a school need to force such a retarded requirement?

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        20 hours ago

        This is a fairly naive take. It’s this way because the infrastructure is built this way. If it was easy for an org to entirely switch to Linux, they would.

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        22 hours ago

        As someone who has been dealing with exactly this issue with my new employer’s enterprise ICT department, I have some insight to share.

        When you have thousands and thousands of laptops that you need to manage, it becomes a burden for the in-house IT department, so they often farm it out to a Managed Service Provider (MSP). This is particularly common for organisations like schools and hospitals that often don’t even have an in-house IT department. The MSP will install policies and management software on the laptops to ensure the OS is up to date, the antivirus is not disabled, the VPN is configured correctly, passwords are changed regularly, etc.

        Yes of course there are linux-native solutions for each of these things, but the MSP doesn’t support it, doesn’t offer that service. To keep their service prices affordable for enterprise organisations, MSPs usually hire the lowest cost technicians and support staff. These poor underpaid staff probably have never even heard of Linux. The MSP can increase their marketable value by advertising the certifications they’ve attained. The certifications are provided by Microsoft and are related to Microsoft software and systems.

        If you have a small fleet of devices and an in-house IT team that has a bunch of Linux enthusiasts, and a user base who drives demand, then it is possible to support Linux. But it requires a lot of effort and dedication. My old employer did that. They had a fleet of around 5,500 devices (a mix of desktops and laptops), mostly Windows, approx 500 of them were macbooks, and about 50 were Linux. Some of these were users who needed to use software that is available only on Linux, some were like me who are simply more productive and efficient using a linux-based OS. But maintaining, administering and supporting those 50 Linux devices took around 20% of the time of the IT department. That’s massively disproportionate to the number of Linux users.

        Not long after I left there, the new CTO put an end to that, they saw and easy cost saving by simply refusing to allow users to have any OS other than Windows.

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        23 hours ago

        Ease of management and surveillance (most such tools marketed at schools are Windows only), first class integration into active directory for user and computer account management, hardware agnostic (rules out macos), and it’s already integrated into the IT team’s systems and processes so switching would be a major effort.

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    23 hours ago

    Glad that they specified WindyPlop11. Linux wins in every branch of every one its splendid variations

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    1 day ago

    Its sometimes fun to watch this drama from the otherside. Windows is ‘that other OS’ for me now. I was switching between Linux and Windows a while ago, and made a permanant switch around 2021-ish (I think). I only use Windows at work as I don’t have a choice, and in certain instances where I’m forced to use a Windows device e.g. for online exams, etc…

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      1 day ago

      That’s me too. Every time someone tells me that windows pulled off another shit move, all I can do is laugh at how they choose to deal with that and keep getting fucked.

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      2 days ago

      IDK that seems pretty invasive

      Perhaps just GRUB and waiting for my input one extra time to confirm I actually want to use my PC at that time

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    1 day ago
    @echo off
    timeout /t 60 /nobreak >nul
    tasklist /fi "imagename eq msedge.exe" | find /i "msedge.exe" >nul
    if not errorlevel 1 (
        taskkill /f /im msedge.exe >nul 2>&1
    )
    exit
    
    • Rose@slrpnk.net
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      1 day ago

      My first thought was Power Automate, the same thing is probably pretty easily doable with it.

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    2 days ago

    Mint guy here, since 6 months ago, best choice I have done. If you make some research, in few time you realiese you do not need Microsoft to live in the majority of the cases.

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    1 day ago

    Funnily enough I actually have Firefox open by default whenever I boot up my PC.

    I have no taskbar or desktop items. I always default to a specific workflow of pressing the windows key (or whatever we call it for Linux), and searching for everything. I have since early windows 10.

    I realised that 90% of the time, I was opening Firefox, so now it just opens. I have a pretty minimal toolbar setup for it, so it’s basically just an address bar that automatically focuses when I start typing.

    One day I’ll set up something where I have multiple search hotkeys for web search, file search, application search, music etc, that will sort of replace this.

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      22 hours ago

      Sounds like you’d like a power launcher style workflow like KRunner or Rofi. Instead of hitting the meta key to bring up the start menu and search for the app you need, bind a key to KRunner or Rofi and invoke the app you want directly. These solutions also natively integrate file search, web search, quickly toggling settings, do in-place calculations etc.

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        17 hours ago

        Psst… KDE’s launcher search is the same search as KRunner, just in the launcher! So you don’t need to make any changes at all for a “hit command, start typing” workflow.

        (yeah we call it the command key, we come from Mac, but I like ‘command’/「⌘」 and it doesn’t have to be apple-specific :3)

        – Frost

    • flubba86@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      We call it the “meta” key. And no, not related to the company formerly known as Facebook.