I enjoy my small shitbox (2007 KIA Rio5 hatchback) and wish I had a smaller shitbox to commute in
One of the biggest perks is the fact that my little shitbox is FIXABLE by sane people with standard tools! No special tools, parts are literally everywhere, and all the parts are DIRT CHEAP. The engine is in Hyundais and KIAs from 1989 to 2011. If it’s a 1.6L 4 cylinder made by those 2 companies it’s the same engine between ALL OF THEM.
In a surprising reversal, the meme got it right (SUVs, 90s) and the title did not (SUV’s).
Even when dealing with acronyms and numbers, " 's " indicates possession.
You’ll never convince me that SUVs don’t exist solely to sell what is effectively a minivan to deeply insecure men.
Deeply insecure men buy pickup trucks with hoods I can barely see over. SUVs and their perception of “safety”, storage space, and ride height are why women are the primary purchasers.
Oh, that Ford Escort model was truly Fix Or Repair Daily.
God, how bad it was. The shittiest and most unreliable car I ever had.
My grandad had one, a 1.4 “Eclipse”. Granted he was a mechanic and very handy at fixing his own cars but that thing was super reliable. Now the Orion he got it to replace was another story, utterly useless hunk of crap. Technically the same car but still…
My contribution - 1990 Volkswagen Vanagon. It is pretty large, but hilariously it’s still smaller than a Chevy Tahoe lol.
And it probably fits more stuff!
Hi, it’s me your long lost cousin!
I mean, it might be small but it got worse gas mileage, was heavier and would kill you in a fender Bender.
Turning a corner was like opening a submarine hatch. The brakes locked up causing more accidents and deaths. The suspension allowed the cars to roll easier. And if you were hit by one of them, you had a much higher chance of severe injury or death due to the lack of crumple zone.
People really need to stop looking for solutions to modern problems by looking to the past at the things that were the reason we ended up with the modern problems.
you’re thinking 60s maybe, 90s cars had servos, crumple zones, even abs and tcs. maybe not the bottom tier ones, but it was def available
i was skimming the wiki page for crumple zone and they had simulations for the '86 vw polo
you’re prolly right on the fuel efficiency thoughAre you trying to say:
My humble contribution
Here just aren’t any smaller cars to purchase anymore, there are a few french ones but thats basically it. Like please make decent sized cars that drive electric.
suv’s where big in the 90’s so I don’t get this.
Yes!
Finally a nuanced take in this community.
Cars wouldn’t be so bad if they weren’t so oversized
Smaller cars will continue to kill a few billion animals yearly. They will also continue to kill around a million of humans every year, or about one human every 30 seconds.
The area covered by parking lots is mostly impervious and contributes to flooding as well as heat islands. Cars and parking lots make cities hotter and are worsening climate change. They also contribute to noise pollution. And no, electric cars are not better for noise because at highway speed they are as noisy as fossil fuel cars, and at low speed, their pedestrian warning system is also louder than fossil fuel cars.
I can be nuanced and understand that some people will always need a car, but most people in the world live in a town, a suburb, or a city, and the existence of the vast majority of those cars cannot be justified, whatever their size. Of course smaller cars are desirable. Electric cars are desirable A mix of electric and smaller would be better than status quo. But fewer cars is even more desirable.
The ugliest urban environments were designed around older cars, long before SUVs were the norm. Like you said, it’s not just the car, but also the infrastructure it requires.
Cars wouldn’t be so bad if they weren’t so oversized
And if there weren’t so many of them.
Speaking as an American: And if there were realistic options to driving.
And if Americans could drive. Majority limply hold the steering wheel with one hand, more concerned with looking cool than being in control of their 5 ton truck of entitlement.
And if they didn’t pollute so much
Edit: oh and the traffic accidents of course! But aside from their size, the required infrastructure, their number, the pollution, and the traffic accidents, cars are totally fine!
Edit 2: And the noise! But other than those things…
And noise
“Fuck cars”, like “ACAB”, is often a quick tagline to a problem people understand is more nuanced. I don’t think so many people here would literally like all cars in existence to be crushed in a heap.
I left reddit because I was apparently too anti car for /r/fuckcars. If this community becomes like the reddit diluted sub where people were making car apology and justifying their use, I’m going to be very disappointed.
I would really love that all cars in existence be crushed into a heap. It’s a fantasy and I know it won’t happen. I can compromise. But if most could be crushed in a heap, that would be very great too.
Literally most though. And I agree.
Public transport is the way to go.
Exceptions for delivery and trucks for construction, emergency services etc.
I’d like that. Take however much chaos or inefficiency you think that day would cause, now imagine centuries of climate change.
I suspect you and I are saying “fuck cars” for very different reasons
Does it involve dragons?
Sight. Unzip.
No. Fuck cars.
Cars also have become bigger because of safety standards and regulations. Like even small cars like a Volkswagen Polo have become larger than their 80’s/90’s counterparts while the interior space didn’t increase that much.
Mazda MX-5/Miata current generation is about the same size (i think 5cm or so longer) as the original with modern safety features, it’s possible to keep the footprint small
Still they could be smaller than they are now even with higher security requirements. Almost nobody needs a jeep, suv and van. Get some small cars that meet your requirements (besides compensating your erectile disfunction).
I prefer the Previa.
I do like my crumple zones, but would like modern cars to downsize like they did in the malaise era.
Can’t find it right now, but this reminds me of that one video about the Citroën C15 (or a similar car) basically asking “Do you really need a car bigger than this?” and showing off how the C15 can transport multiple cows and go cross country and such.
Sooo… Minivans?
Minivans/MPVs are so much better family cars in practice it isn’t even funny.
They are comfier. Less ground clearance drives better and is more economical. They are actually effective at occasional cargo hauling. And so on. Luckily they seem on the uptick, SUVs are a devolution in practical aspects.
This is a nice thought, but if that older car hit a wall at the same rapid speed as any of those modern cars, everyone in it dies while the people in the modern car walk.
Well, not so much walk, but crawl on a pool of their blood racking up $$$$ cost to be paid by their families over the various future years of the rest of their lives…have a crash? Surprise! You’re a slave now! No need to thank me for saving your ass! Oh by the way, that left nipple is gone, and well, we removed the entire thing, but we did re attach your penis and your vagina… Oh…what do you mean passenger? Ah that does explain the extra legs. You know what, you need to rest, well talk later, again, no need to thank, K bye!
…Huh? I was talking about the crumple zones and modern safety features.
Yes me too. Those allow you to survive as a slave… High insurance, ambulance, hospital stay, meds,therapy… the other guy’s Chevy Malibu convertible super charged turbo powered rear window cleaning system with real live 2D naked Lady decal.
If you just die, that’s it, nothing to pay. Your quarter is over and daddy has no more quarters, but you owe nothing. If you survive, you’re screwed.
