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I mean a fair bit of old country music was just “I love it here, but sometimes it sucks, but it’s right where I want to be” and taking pride in that. It seems like a lot of modern music has just distilled and broken that into “I’m gonna get fucked up and laid and if you ain’t from round here then git out”.
The soul just got sucked out of it and the scraps got wrapped in plastic and makeup.
I was driving through western Washington near Idaho recently, scrolling through the radio to see what they had going on out there, and the song literally went “find you a girl who loves her daddy, and talkin bout babies makes her happy” likeeee cmon this is straight up Christian white nationalism dog-whistle, let us be honest with ourselves.
I love Lucinda Williams
If you like country, you need Euro Country. Ciara and the gang have plenty of soul, they’re feckin’ class.
I heard death comes in threes, I misheard it, bein’ from Dublin
I thought “death’s in the trees”
Which makes sense 'cause they’re the saddest removed
Of plants I have seen, oh, the drama of them dying every year
I love that bit so much
Edit: oh my instance censored me
What were the trees meant to be? The saddest trotskyists? jkjk
The good/bad news is that the old “I swear to God you bootlickers need a good ass kicking” and “Jesus is ashamed at what you do in his name” styles of country are making a comeback
And for inclusivity, there’s a sub genre devoted to the “you tried to end my people but I will not die” style which includes focuses on lgbtqia+, women in general, pagans/wiccans, indigenous groups, other, and various combinations therein
The bog witches, fae creatures, and {unknown description of Appalachian denizens} have been putting out some good stuff
Pink Williams is actually one of those people for those who dont know. His style is very anti capitalist country music. “The Devil is Real” is all about how the real devil is the capitalists who take advantage of the common folk. And “Thank God For Gay Cowboys” is as the title suggests about gay cowboys and rednecks.
Just looked him up, this guy is great!
What style is that?
Americana. Check out James McMurtry.
Chris Knight, Jason Isbell, Steve Earle, Turnpike Troubadours, Cody Jinks, Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Lucero
All great Americana / Folk Rock / Outlaw artists who have meaningful music most would call country that has nothing to do with pavement princess trucks, shitty beer, racism, or military worship. Quite a few of these artists have songs with anti establishment themes or have made statements against conservativism at some point, as far as I am aware. Classic outlaw country is also full of artists who were hippie / fuck the state types before corporations co-opted the genre
I thought Colter wall was an asshole, but I’m only basing that off the fact that he sang Dixieland as a preface to one of his songs. I just kinda assumed that he was a white supremacist and stopped listening to him after that.
I’m not claiming to be an expert on the personal affairs or beliefs of any of these artists and I’ve removed other artists I didn’t mention from my library after learning some unsavory things. I do know Sleeping On The Blacktop, his most popular song, makes several literary juxtapositions about class and ideology in the south, one in particular about a rich white confederate type woman spitting on the working class people in a region of the appalachians that traditionally opposed the confederacy and slavery.
Would be a very odd to also play songs supporting confederate ideals at the same time, but some people do some real mental gymnastics with their views
I’m really enjoying Jesse Welles atm, especially his song Masks Off
Willie Carlisle and Sierra Farrell are both phenomenal acts, as are Big Thief/Buck Meek/Adrienne Lenker
Or Tom Russell.
There have been quite a few options in heavy music as well. Zeal and Ardor mix black metal and spiritual folk, Wayfarer have an Appalachian black metal vibe, and Bask do some really beautiful progressive metal in the style.
I’ve also been grooving some Lilith Max lately but she ventures closer to indie pop but the sentiment is the same. Add Peggy, Mollie Elizabeth, and Emei to that vibe
Oliver Anthony is a good hit of the Appalachian soul. Bryan Andrews is a hit you over the head with the calling out of the establishment. Add Jesse Welles and Tyler Childers for slightly more subtle messages
Queer Appalachian country sounds awesome. I normally go for folk punk, but I do kinda miss living surrounded by queer Appalachians like some of the places I’ve lived
If you think about it, isn’t country kinda the American folk music? Not the native American folk music, but the American folk music.
I swear I heard a country song at work the other day that was talking about hot beer and cold women, and I was like damn, they’re really trying everything now.
talking about hot beer and cold women
My truck left me and my girlfriend broke down.
Momma is back from the grave.
Don’t buy a Tesla, lots of people had that experience when they deprecated gpt4.
There was this super popular Vountry Sing a few years back called “That’s my kind of night” with terrifying lyrics.
The course was saying that on a date, other men might take a girl on a date to a restaurant or something in town, but that the singer would drive them to a river in the middle of nowhere where nobody can hear them, put them on a boat, and sex them.
You’re missing the cultural context and misinterpreting the intention as a result. You see, in Glorious Christian America, having sex is so shameful for the man and the woman that you must hide a long distance away so nobody knows two consenting adults enjoyed themselves.
Only the man is supposed to enjoy himself. If the woman does, she’s a whore.
Tap for spoiler
/s
And of course they can’t say no…
Because of the implication…
wth
I was shocked when a friend told me he was into early country music some years ago. Then he explained the difference between the country he was listening to and the country music of today. It was actually pretty cool before it got watered down.
If you gave me modern country music and the AI slop version, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.
No worries, neither can the people who like it.
An AI-Generated Country Song Is Currently Topping Charts in America
What about bro country AI slop? l https://youtu.be/CORANvT8l9A
country music can be really good
i think the decline in quality is mostly because music producers try to appeal to a broader audience, which necessarily makes it dumber
Surprised Jesse Welles hasn’t been mentioned. Maybe not country, more folk I suppose maybe. Not music I typically like though, and he’s my favorite artist right now.
The modern country I listen to goes like:
He’s bouncin’ off my booty cheeks,
I love the way he rides,
I can hardly breathe while he’s pumping deep inside.
I kiss him on the neck and then he kisses on my bussy,
Call him Daddy while I holler,
“Man that boy’s so damn good looking!”
I actually love the sound of a steel guitar but it seems like the only country music that features steel guitar heavily is the kind with insipid lyrics.
If anyone could make any recommendations on that front, I’d be happy to receive them.
Try Iron & Wine.
May I introduce you to countrycore
Bilmuri https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW2JD0tj1jQ
I never knew I needed this in my life, and they are amazing live too.
That’s it, I’m trading in my lucky strikes for a corncob pipe.
I respect your opinion
But my ear bud can never be trusted again after what it just produced
It seems like the interesting parts of country music got kicked out by gate-keeping corporate assholes. Americana seems to have collected a lot of the exiles, i.e. Brandi Carlile, John Prine, Emmylou Harris, Jason Isbell, Allison Russell, Gillian Welch, Maren Morris, etc.
I guess Chris Stapleton hasn’t been kicked out of country yet, and he’s pretty good. I thought “White Horse” was an absolute jam.
I’m generally not a country music fan, although I love any well composed and performed music, regardless of genre. Chris Stapleton is as good as a musician gets. He’s a first rate composer, and an excellent singer/ guitarist/performer.
The fact that he exists, puts every one of the rest of those lightweight State Fair acts to shame. I would be ashamed to put out so much of that insipid nonsense, knowing it’s going up against masterful work like Stapleton’s. He’s easily the best thing happening in Country Music these days.
two through, so far so good
In the Orchard by Tiger Army
It’s really good and has steel slide guitar.
Charlie Crockett, he has a real old school sound and southern twang. He cranks out music like crazy, too!
Crucified Son Kentucky Too Long
Both of those songs are my favorite from him.
Check out Red Sparowes, it’s instrumental progressive metal (I guess it’s metal) that heavily features steel guitar. Very big sound, it’s like listening to a landscape or dramatic weather.
I’ve seen this band described as ambient Americana, very spacey but it’s a vibe and there is a good amount of steel guitar - https://suss.bandcamp.com/album/counting-sunsets
NPR had some good bits about this.
Country music hasn’t always been the soundtrack of the Republican Party, according to music historian Lester Feder. He says President Nixon cemented the relationship during his years in the White House, and there’s a country album to prove it called Thank You, Mr. President.
https://www.npr.org/2007/02/18/7484160/the-conservative-evolution-of-country-music
What kind of dates are we calling “old country” vs “new country”
I heard a lot of commentary like this when I was in college in the 90’s
That’s around the time the swap was happening, heart felt ballads about the trials of life vs upbeat I’m the greatest and I don’t take crap.
It’s not that there’s no new country that’s good, but most of what people call country is just twangy pop. I blame twangy pop for a lot of the nationalism we see now.
It’s never been great. Nasal and basic, with real zingers like “my love burns like a hot stove”.
Rockabilly, now we’re getting somewhere good. Music with a little soul. Other various fusion efforts can be good too.
I won’t wax poetic on it, but top 40 country has been rather banal for decades.
I will wax a little poetic, then. ;-)
Nashville has had a machine since at least the late 60s for harvesting songs basically provided for free by writers desperate for a break, and routing them them through overproduced studios full of controllable singers even more desperate than the songwriters. Now, to be fair, the occasional gem slips through, more when the model was less refined, and then there’s folks like Dolly Parton who infiltrated it like a virus and then took it over to explode with decent music.
Still, other than what Steve Earle called “The Great Credibility Scare of the 80s” when he, Dwight Yoakam, Lyle Lovett, KD Lang, and Melissa Etheridge (among others) were allowed to bubble to the top of the scene, there’s always been a grifter business mindset that’s somehow worse in country because, as a direct outgrowth and expansion of certain varieties of folk music, audiences ask for authenticity when all they really want is cultural validation (hint: for country-adjacent music, authenticity usually looks a lot like it does in other genres). Bubblegum country therefore somehow feels dirtier than bubblegum pop, and it gets even worse as product categories ossify and Nashville country gets targeted to a more and more specific segment of the public.
I’m fully aware that even the stuff I like, the “Rockabilly [and] other various fusion efforts” broadly called “Americana,” is subject to its own tropes and business pressures, but being smaller and targeting a different niche, there’s at least room in the conversation for artistry and risk, and thankfully good music isn’t as hard to get made as some other forms of entertainment, so there’s a lot of it out there waiting to be found.
Also, nothing wrong with some nasal vocals in the right context, LOL. I do grow weary of “High and Lonesome” bluegrass vocals after about two songs, though.
Psychobilly is even better imo. Tiger Army is the shit and Nick13’s solo stuff is great too.
Kinda depends on how far you go back/what genre of country you are talking about. But John Hartford has some of my favorite lyrics that still carry weight today. I probably think about the song In Tall Buildings everyday on my drive to work.
The thing I hate the most about modern country is that there’s nothing that really connects it to country/bluegrass other than the poor use of steel string guitar and fake accents. I live in Oklahoma… Nobody talks like that, and even if they did you would usually lose it when you’re singing.
Someone like reba mcentire has a fairly common Oklahoman accent if you talk to older people in the boonies, but she doesn’t really sing with a heavy accent. It’s all performative affectations from rich kids from suburbs pretending like they’re from the country side.
YT fed me Rick Beats at one point, this feels like a discussion he has on repeat re the fall of modern music.
Is This Country Song Racist? - Key & Peele: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLnUJzueBOQ
No Burnham came up with the best name, stadium country.
There’s still plenty of smaller lesser know artists that still keep that outlaw country spirit alive!
Charlie Crockett (southern twang) Cody Jinks Paul Cauthen (epic booming voice) Whiskey Myers (Lynyrd Skynyrd sound)
Country music draws it’s origins from southern blues music. Blues originated from religious black musicians and often why it was singing about struggles or over coming demons.
New country is just a racist pop singler that wants to fuck their tractor.
Zandi Holup is a pretty “new” artist who sings a lot about “struggles or over coming demons”. My favorite song of hers is “Gas Station Flowers”, the official video for that song is intense. She releases pretty much nothing but bangers, IMO (not a fan of “Mary Jane” personally, she kinda missed the mark on that one). “Go Find Less” is another great one, straight up feminist anthem. “Dirty Wings” is a good song as well.
You can definitely hear its blues roots. I suppose you are right about the religious origins, but the songs they later copied were not about the same subject matter
If anyone wants to hear some good country:
Yes, that is the official filmclip
Love his stuff
My favorite example of this is from the Charley Daniels Band:
damn
you’re right
