• Krudler@lemmy.world
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    The piper is coming. No I’m not defending alcohol, but the level of drug addiction among our young people is shocking. The amount of digital addiction is shocking. I work in youth crisis so I am not talking on my ass, most young people are addicts now. So it’s all fun to talk down about boomers who drank but holy fuck is this generation ever screwed.

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    I’m honestly so concerned by the amount of energy drinks zoomers drink, plus the vaping. They’re less into downers, but fuck me they love those stimulants.

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      The vaping is depressing because it feels like all the gains made by anti-smoking have been eroded with more people smoking than ever before.

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        I personally don’t mind vaping, since many smokers switched to vaping and people who vape don’t emit a passive aura of stench.

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    Read an article a bit ago. Take away: Millennials drink the most but largely kicked the nicotine thing. Gen Z have brought back nicotine in a big way, even causing a resurgence in chewing tobacco. Its all just homosapiens coping, so I say pick your poison and keep doing your best.

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      Which is weird, cause I can drop drinking no problem, I’m on the nicotine train for life though, 35yo.

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      And those not doing nicotine are probably doing THC instead. There is a measurable negative impact of legalizing marijuana on alcohol sales

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      I would assume marketing is also the influence on that decision. Seemingly gen alpha seem focused on vaping instead, so times are changing - not necessarily for the better.

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    Love a pint, personally. Drinking with friends trumps most other activities. Currently on my way to see The Prodigy with some old friends I’m meeting in Edinburgh. Looking forward to the pubs and merry laughs as much as the gig, in fact more so.

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    hey, man. i’m a gen-xer drinking lime beer and watching 90s general hospital episodes on youtube.

    lemme lay it down for you, youngin’.

    pokeman is lame. memes are lame. drinking alcoholic beverages without alcohol is lame. naming an alcoholic beverage without alcohol a ‘mocktail’ is lame.

    your entire generation is composed of 90% plastic from soda bottles and the other 10% is from social media propaganda. you don’t want to poison yourselves lol.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA.

    any questions?

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    I’m gonna say it, alcohol and smoking is shit. Especially those who smoke you even smell like shit

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      This is all part of the puritanical shift that’s happening in some Gen Z circles, this post can’t be talking about millennials. I saw an article a few months ago that stated millennials were the drunkest generation and that while Gen Z as a whole drink less there has been a strong uptick in their consumption recently. Can’t imagine why they might have started drinking more, well besides you know the everything happening in the world

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        Gen Z is lost to the manosphere and homesteading. Those are used to push right wing puritanical propaganda. I really hope they snap out of it.

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        If weed is legal drinking goes down.

        I wonder if it’s people living in weed “dry” states that are the current outliers.

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          Well here in the Netherlands it was Covid that did in the student drinking culture and apparently it just never bounced back.

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          This is exactly it. South Carolina is full of sloppy alcoholics and the alcohol lobby spends a lot of money to keep it that way. They’ll be the last in the country to legalize.

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          That’s absolutely part of it. Here in Wisconsin the Tavern League has outsized influence and we still don’t have legal weed and we lead the country in drinking. Although I’ve been seeing more and more of those THC drinks. I’m not sure what kind of loophole those slip through, but they seem popular.

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            Damn y’all don’t even have medical, always thought you guys would follow us here in Michigan relatively quickly as our states have very similar politics but I didn’t think about big beer lobbying.

            Is there a line of dispensaries on the border in illinois then like we have here for all the ohio and indiana people coming to buy weed?

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              Yeah, at least there’s one set up in South Beloit. It’s more expensive than Michigan though and has a much stricter limit on what you can buy as a non resident. We went that route before, but the grey area stuff I can get at the grocery store is much more convenient. I’d do Michigan but it’s a bit farther of a drive than Illinois. Maybe I’ll grab stuff next time I head to pictured rocks

              Why don’t we have it? Wisconsin got gerrymandered to hell for a decade. The Supreme Court is now left leaning and is breaking the gerrymander, so hopefully we can get legalization of some sort soon

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            They’re derived from hemp, which became federally legal a few years back. It’s the same chemical (d9-THC) that’s found in cannabis indica and sativa, but it’s present in such low quantities in hemp that it takes wayyyyyy more plant matter to extract enough.

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        I would doubt that fact about millennials without a source to back it up. It just doesn’t track with experience, but I could definitely be wrong.

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          Agreed, the only people I know who drink regularly are boomers and I as a millennial only ever drink when I’m around those boomers.

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    Laughs in British.

    By the time Americans are trying alcohol for the first time, some of us are straight up alcoholics and have been trying to quit for several years.

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      Weird flex.

      You can recover by telling us we’re dumb for building houses out of wood, or calling us fat.

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        Well yes, there are several other policies and mannerisms of yours besides the 21-year-old MLDA that are quite frankly inscrutable to me.

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          I see a lot of ridiculouness tv show every day. The american culture like opening cans with their teeth on the side of the can and throwing themselves onto tables and from roofs is completely insane. Nobody even bats an eye.

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          Nah dude we should be building heavy stone houses despite one of our coasts being highly prone to earthquakes, the entire middle of our country prone to tornadoes and only a small section of the east coast being suitable for heavy stone houses! We should be willing to be crushed to death in an earthquake or take a fat rock to the head during a tornado so they can’t talk about this anymore!!

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            Woah wooden houses are totally resistant to all those situations and even more! I’m certain that’s why we build so many and leave them empty across every biome in the country.

            !!! Fuck I forgot to add all these. Just sprinkle em in as you please

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        IDK, with the amount of drunk driving in the US I’ve always wondered if we shouldn’t flip the two so that people have experience with how alcohol affects them before they have the ability to get behind the wheel of a car.

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      Denmark that has been topping the drinking charts among 15-16 year olds almost every year this century:

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        Majority is teens; but frankly, there are instances where children drink. At least hard liquor isnt as popular as relatively-low alcohol drinks.

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      It’s not hard to get liquor as a teen in the US and it’s underground. I was drinking too vomiting just about every weekend throughout highschool. I doubt that’s going on as much with a 5% lager in a pub, and I don’t see clubs tolerating it that much.

      I’d be interested in seeing numbers on which produce more alcoholics. Coming from the latter, the former would have been much safer and better overall🤷‍♂️.

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    It tastes like ass as well. I haven’t drank in like 8 years by now, but I think I would’ve taken longer to quit it if it tasted like a full fat Coke, lol.

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        And I feel like when I first started drinking, 15, 16 years old, drinks with flavor were easier to consume. As drinking progressed, those were the drinks I avoided like the plague. I haven’t had a long island iced tea since I was 21 or 22.

        And that’s not to say there aren’t well crafted cocktails that taste good, but none of them taste like a coke.

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          I’m not against a pornstar martini every once in a while, but only if it’s made well. I’ve had instant cocktails and those are not even worth the tin they’re served in.

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        Yeah, same. Was struck by it at a korean restaurant that had the equivalent of a wine pairing, and their selection was just … something for children, only children can’t drink. As in, I like straight soju and makgeolli, but I’d rather get some craft makgeolli without sweeteners than something flavoured like chemical blueberry replica.

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          Commercially produced makgeolli will always use artificial sweeteners because there’s still active fermenting taking place and any real sweeteners will be turned into alcohol, which will effect the taste and alcohol content. With craft makgeolli, you add a sweetener, like juice or honey or sugar, shortly before serving.

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            Mmm, bottle fermentation.

            But I think the main point is more along the lines of expectations for alcohol and general tastes: I find overly sweet stuff a turn-off, and generally need to temper sweet stuff with something sour or bitter.

            Also, mixing juice and alcohol can very often result in what a lot of us drank as teenagers, and may have rather negative associations to. Like I don’t have problems with gimlets and micheladas or radlers, but I think I prefer them all on the boozier side, and stuff like rum & coke is just … not for me.

            So if I go to a restaurant and get what I interpret as more or less teenager drinking swill full of artificial flavouring, Black Tower and general goon sack swill, I’m going to have a bad time, and be left wondering if this stuff is actually representative of what they consider alcohol for adults, or if the people at the restaurant are being weird.

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              Yeah, the smell of RedBull vodka makes me nearly puke now, after young me actually puked too often from it

              I also don’t like sweet alcohol stuff.
              My little brother on the other side doesn’t like beer and tends more to those sugar bombs.
              Can’t understand it… The sugar makes the hangover much worse

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                I drank Malibu once, when I was 12. I got very drunk (as 12 year olds do), and haven’t been able to smell it without nausea since

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              Yeah, I get it. There was a bit of a fruit flavored soju fad about ten years ago in Korea, but that has pretty much completely died off. You’d be hard pressed to find soju cocktails or makgeolli dolled up in Korea outside of a few regional places that want to be known for chestnut or corn or sweet potato makgeolli.

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      I do think a lot of people force themselves to like it, when it’s “cool” as a young adult. I’d bet most people would pick a different drink if there was no buzz around alcohol.

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        “Cool” or “tough”, I saw it both in my teenage and army days. People are very silly. Being a good family man, responsible father and loving husband, that’s cool; controlling one’s anger, being self-sacrificial, needing little and giving a lot, that’s tough. Oh well. 🤷‍♂️🙃

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        100%. I never could convince myself to like it and I tried like hell in my early 20s. Then I discovered hard cider, still not better than a soda but good enough to easily get fucked up with.

        But then weed became legal and I’ve all but phased out drinking altogether. Besides, it’s too damn expensive

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      I haven’t drank in ~2.5 years and got served an alcoholic beer on accident.
      Even the first sip tasted awful. Super sweet but at the same time like disinfectant.
      And I used to love this brand of beer. Crazy how much of an acquired taste alcohol is.

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        You sure that wasn’t an alcohol free beer? Unless it’s de-alcholized beer, a non-alcoholic beer is stopped being brewed before a lot of the sugar from the yeast is turned into alchohol.

        So they tend to be sweeter unless they add some additives, and they taste like stale alcohol as well, that could have been the disinfectant tinge. As they are still 0.5% alcohol typically.

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          100% sure because I’ve ordered the nonalcoholic Version and they apologised about a hundred times when I pointed out it was an alcoholic beer.

          I drink a lot of non alcoholic beers and tried a lot of different brands, so I’m used to the way they taste. Also a lot of them have very low amounts of sugar in them (I.e. Jever fun, Fürstenberg 0%, etc).

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        Sweet beer?

        What brand was it. Beer is bitter, not sweet unless you add some fruit or it’s mixed beer with juice something else.

        Beer should be barley (wheat/rice/etc), hops, water, and yeast. That’s it.

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            I see that’s a perfectly normal ingredient list. Maybe the glass wasn’t cleaned? That’s so weird about the sweet though.

            I’ve had some 8% fruit yeasted beers, and they do taste like juice though.

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      I can’t stand beer or wine (or Coke), but I genuinely enjoy the harsh taste of hard liquor. I stopped drinking over a year ago and have no desire to ever drink alcohol again, but sometimes the craving for the taste hits me so hard and I almost give in until I remember how alcohol makes me feel, both while I’m drinking it and the day after. I really wish I could sit and enjoy a few drinks for the taste without there being any alcohol in it.

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        Wonder if it’s somewhat emotional, like reminiscing the “good ol’ days”, or if it’s just truly an acquired taste. Idk, I probably partied and drank more than 95% of “programmer socks” and “ugh I hate people” lemmings but now even a glass of prosecco is not tasty at all, lol. I could just have juice, and for a fraction of the price!

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        I can drink beer, but after working on and off at a distillery for a decade as a contractor, the smell of vodka/whiskey just makes me gag.

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    In the community page of my investment platform, the older folks who invested in Diageo, the parent company of Guiness, are genuinely shocked and finally convinced that younger generations are drinking less because Diageo is struggling financially.

    Nevermind the health reasons why drinking alcohol is bad, it just really have become expensive to go out, let alone go drinking alcohol!

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    I’ve read that certain GLPs used for weight loss can also cause a distaste for alcohol. Someone that had been a somewhat regular drinker was interviewed saying they suddenly found that they didn’t like the taste anymore and stopped drinking alcoholic beverages.

    Not gonna say that’s the whole cause of course, but it may be a contributing factor.

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      I pretty much stopped drinking on Wegovy mostly because I always feel full and I have to choose between a cocktail or food.