• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    2 hours ago

    Canada should announce that they’ve changed the names of all the Great Lakes to Canadian names, like Lake Toronto, and Lake Ottawa. Make sure there’s a Lake Saskatchewan, because there is no way Trump can read or pronounce it, so that will really piss him off. Maybe he’ll painfully stroke out and croak, and we can all read about it the Big Beautiful Obituary.

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      No, they should find the most sorry thing of a mud puddle (preferably one in Patagonia or so) and call THAT Lake America.

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      3 hours ago

      Mine has it in brackets. They can honestly fuck off with that.

      Like I specifically searched lake Ontario.

      Edit: if I go out of search there’s no mention of the wrong name however.

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    6 hours ago

    For android users recommend CoMaps, or “OSMand”, both are open source and privacy focused. Both use openstreetmaps data, CoMaps just have what I think is a cleaner interface. Both have offline maps, turn-by-turn navigation and frankly a lot more customization since it’s not corporate owned. No ads, and no businesses who pay being stuffed in your eyes first when maps load.

    Both are much improved since trying to ditch maps a few years ago and basic local business info wasn’t available, now it looks to be much improved and it’s a great time to jump.

    Hope this helps someone.

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    9 hours ago

    I’m Canadian and I switched to maps.here.com, a European service as it provides good transit info. We need to move away from American hegemony.

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      8 hours ago

      HERE Maps will include the change, I 100% guarantee it. They have Gulf of America pushed to prod servers. (switch to US vpn location and you will see it)

      source: I may or may not work for them 🫠

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        8 hours ago

        As long as they only change it in the US, that’s fine with me. I’d still rather support the EU.

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              3 hours ago

              Did you search for lake America? I’m also in Europe and replied to your other comment with pics. It defaults to lake Ontario for me.

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                No. I searched for Lake Ontario. That comes up with the pictures etc, and that has Lake America in backets. Then I zoomed in to it and it was just Lake America. However that was yesterday, today it is back to Ontario.
                The day before I also checked it out and it was only Ontario, without even the brackets. So it was only for a day for some reason.

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      7 hours ago

      website doesn’t even open for me xD

      i just use osmand on my phone for general navigation and my city’s public transportation app for navigating the bus system

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    11 hours ago

    Watching these corporate collaborators fall all over themselves to enact the profoundly stupid and short-sighted whims of a sodden, rotting corpse when they could just…not do that…has been one of the most surreal experiences of my life.

    The sad thing is, thanks to their capture of both parties, I have no conceit they’ll actually experience any consequences for it. We have handed power to some of the least-deserving ghouls the Wharton School of Business ever squeezed out.

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      10 hours ago

      Hi, I work in the map industry. We generally don’t get to decide what names to use for features. We apply what the local official name is (to simplify). That’s why if you’re in country A, feature X might be named something different than if you’re in country B. You can imagine this would (and has) caused many conflicts around the world if we didn’t display the local official name. (Switch your region via VPN and you can see this in action)

      If Google renamed it to Gulf of America, no Google didn’t, not really … They just inserted the new official name for that feature according to GNIS.

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        4 hours ago

        The Google Maps change does only seems to be visible for people with US IPs. But I assume that Apple Maps, Mapquest, Mapbox, Bing (TIL Bing has a map feature), etc all use GNIS to label features too, right? None of them have changed the name yet. Seems unlikely that all of them would still be out-of-sync with upstream, and let Google drink their milkshake like this.

        According to this Wired article:

        In fact, the map for the federal government’s Geographic Names Information System database, which informs these changes, still showed Lake Ontario as of Sunday morning, with a note that the maps are “in the process of being updated to reflect this name change.”

        Sure looks to me like Google made the change before the basemaps were updated. It’s now 23:40 EDT Sunday, and GNIS still says Lake Ontario…so yeah, I think this is on them. Dear Leader told them to jump, and they rushed to show him how high they could get.

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        9 hours ago

        Mapquest isn’t changing it because an executive order doesn’t change the name outside of the US executive branch. They can easily ignore petty GNIS changes.

        Google is just gargling Trump’s nuts because they want to.

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              7 hours ago

              Well on my map its still there as OG, so until it changes I’ll use it, but always down for recommended better non-google that people contribute to pigs wastin time for speeders, mofos got everyone doin 10 under near me, highway I wanna go fast

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        Trump is not a king, and outside of the executive branch, his executive orders have no binding power.

        Google et. al. Are, last I checked, not part of the executive branch, and are under no obligation to abide by Trump renaming bodies of water.

        They’re doing it because they want to. Because they know it will make Trump happy.

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          8 hours ago

          It’s the official GNIS name now, and is usually just piped into the maps. There aren’t people actually deciding which names to use at Google, HERE, whatever, etc … we just push sources in.

          They’re doing it because they want to. Because they know it will make Trump happy.

          sure, ok … guess you know more than my 20+ years experience at a digital map company that actually taught google how to make their maps.

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        Except it’s not official. An executive order means the executive branch has to use that name. Nobody else does.

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          8 hours ago

          It is official in the eyes of the US Government. I’m simply explaining why some/most map companies will include the change.

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          7 hours ago

          i think that’s a bit of a rash reaction to changing the name of a lake locally

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            You are aware this is not the only thing Trump has done, right? That there is a whole context of him and his collaborators doing shit for decades which this particular decision should be considered part of.

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        What you say about local names is correct, however the issue is that Demented Don has just decided that this is a good way to punish Canada. It is still surprising that a president can make such a change by executive order and there is no uproar in the US.

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          We’ve got bigger things to worry about than feature naming tbh.

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            It’s just symptomatic of the destruction of social and diplomatic capital (pardon the cold calculating economic word) that this old demented fools is engaged in. His economic destruction and greed and theft is another story.

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              8 hours ago

              1000% agree. And maps are absolutely political, but this is just another distraction.

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      I’m not even sure it’s collaboration for the dumb shit like this. It’s just not worth spending millions of dollars litigating over something that doesn’t actually fucking matter. Not litigating the name change itself, but whatever bullshit Trump decides to do for his temper tantrum for being ignored.

      It will just be changed back eventually.

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    I thought Google’s policy was that they deferred to the international cartographic societies decision on place names, i.e leave it alone, but apparently they’ll just give in to an international skid mark when the opportunity presents itself.

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      I just assumed they followed the nomenclature of whatever country they operate in.

      Edit: Ah, I get it. This change is just change within the US’s Executive Branch and therefore Google doesn’t need to follow it at all. They’re just sucking MAGA penis.

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    8 hours ago

    Makes sense as they once championed “alternative facts”. May as well live in an alternative reality.

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      I might be mistaken, but that’s when object reference is not set to an instance of an object in F#