• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    53·
    1 day ago

    That’s what fascism always is. Hitler’s cabinet was full of drunks, addicts, incompetents, and genuine crazy people. People who think fascists were ever competent just fell for the marketing.

    • Mustakrakish@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 hours ago

      Also ehat conservatism always is. Conservatism is universal, because its the fear of change and the desperate want to maintain control, which is always a losing enterprise. So they need to escalate violence and power grabs as it starts falling through their fingers faster and faster, and always ends in authoritarianism and eventually fascism once violent citizen militias are given state say and funding.

    • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      18·
      22 hours ago

      Yeah, if you look at how well Hitler took over Europe at first by just harnessing people’s dissatisfaction and listening to his generals, and then turned around and made dumb mistake after dumb mistake, it becomes obvious.

      The more fascist you are, the dumber you get. The core of their philosophy is to use violence and brute force cause they believe that it always ends with the winners winning, and surely they were born a winner.

      It’s circular logic, fake it till you make it works to get power but you need competence to actually keep it.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      1 day ago

      I blame the History Channel. It made the Nazis look competent and smart.

      They’re always like “OMG look at this rocket plane!” without mentioning that it never saw combat but did chemically dissolve several pilots and ground crew.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
        5·
        18 hours ago

        Idk I think that’s a point of Rogers fighting the Red Skull, isn’t it? Hydra despises the main Nazis because they’re just racist morons while they just want to do some super-science/technocrat fascism.

        Plus no one actually read Captain America until the MCU.

    • Delphia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      22 hours ago

      But fuck they had cool outfits.

      I think all Nazi memorabilia should be burned, except for those sweet Hugo Boss long coats the SS got.

  • mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    16·
    1 day ago

    Big insult chains like that only hit home for me if each one adds a new dimension or sense to the insult. This is just saying stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid over and over again. Reminds me of le epic reddit insults like “fuckwaffle” or whatever the hell it was. I hate conservatives and fascism as much as anyone, but it’s tiring to see such circlejerky posts that basically just say “conservatives dumb, upvote below”. I don’t need my opinion circlejerked, I’m already convinced of it without some random man telling me it’s true. And there’s nothing cathartic about reading this either because of how try-hard the insult sounds. Bleh.

    • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      22 hours ago

      Agree, I also think that insulting tangentially related things (or just completely unrelated) kinda spoils your point. Like, is the problem with MAGA the fascism, or is it stupid people with mullets? Because I know a lot of stupid people and many are genuinely good people, hate is a choice you make.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    911·
    2 days ago

    I’m sorry that the education system failed to inform you of this, but that’s what fascism is. Sensical fascism is utterly oxymoronic. It’s dumb as hell in every iteration because it’s a bunch of idiots whipping each other into a hate mob and turning that hate mob built on a system of “yes and” into a police state

    • Schmoo@slrpnk.netEnglish
      3·
      16 hours ago

      This exactly. The only reason it even works at all is because they are building on top of an already functioning imperial system. Fascists are like prions emerging from within and taking over a far more competent - and more subtly evil - host, and making it lash out violently while melting its brain into goo. Even if it is not rooted out it’s still doomed to kill its host and by extension, itself.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
      48·
      2 days ago

      Yeah. People said 100% the same thing about Hitler. He was a clown, he was the weird guy that came to fundraisers and scarfed all the food because he didn’t have any money, and scared away donors and political allies because he would get in their face yelling about Jews. Until, all of a sudden, his big opponents got sent to the camps or just killed, and it wasn’t funny.

      They’re doing a great job at following the playbook so far. People are upset but no one’s really done that much to stop them, which means it will continue and get worse.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        24·
        2 days ago

        Yeah Hitler, mussolini, Oswald Moseley, Trump, the lot of them are all lying, stupid boors. Crass and unlikable. And when institutions have failed to serve the common people and have lost the trust of the common people your ordinary and everyday jackass begins to think these people are telling it like it is and goosesteps along behind like hateful dumb ass duckling.

        The SS were not ubermensch, they were basically the golden one with guns. Mussolini managed to make the trains run less on time. Nazi science was hindered because it was subject to the beliefs of the party. And also a lot of the best scientists of the Weimar republic and pre fascist Italy were either Jewish or close to jews such as the great Enrico Fermi who fled Italy because his wife was Jewish and he then proceeded to work on the Manhattan project.

        Then as now they managed to keep the left and center fighting each other over actual attempts to govern as they just declared those attempts ineffective and communist and that their attempts were much better and always worked, reality be damned.

    • RobotsLeftHand@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      2 days ago

      It’s the one thing I never really understood when I read about it in history classes. The blatant hypocrisy, particularly how fascism is obsessed with “strong men” while worshipping the whiniest manchildren. It seemed important because it was a top comment by people who lived through it, but I never understood it until Trump.

  • Hegar@fedia.io
    302·
    2 days ago

    I have no problem with insulting fascists, bootlickers and other vermin, but a lot of that “inbred … chaw spitting … mullet-wearing six-toed cross-eyed cousin-fucking” stuff doesn’t feel right to me.

    Maybe it feels elitist? Like the way he says ‘this is a particularly stupid version of fascism’ is by describing it with images that conjure up stereotypes used against the rural working class. Like you could add the word “peasant” and it wouldn’t look out of place.

  • jjjalljs@ttrpg.networkEnglish
    131·
    2 days ago

    If they were smart, they would realize conservatism’s solutions (eg: hurt the queers, blacks, etc) won’t actually solve their problems.

  • stinky@redlemmy.comEnglish
    2·
    1 day ago

    Everyone is desperate for a win. Conservatives are hurting, and they need to be validated. Trump gives them that. They would blindly worship anyone who gave them that validation.