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Wealthiest country on earth
🤣 It’s like putting one leg in boiling hot water, the other one in liquid nitrogen and calling it room temperature.
The US is a third world country with some very rich people.
My grandad was told he’d have to give back his electric wheelchair due to some change in insurance.
He was like “let me know what day, so I can have the news here as your tip a 100 year old ww2 veteran out of his wheelchair”
They let him keep the chair.
i don’t know even what insult i wanna use for those people. those are horrible people
Horrible “people”.
My grandfather taught me never to dehumanize people.
Once you start seeing people as “less than people” things go bad quick. People are people. There’s good, bad, and ugly. But they are people.
There are subhumans. It’s ok to treat monsters less than they deserve.
Just look at what is happening in the Middle East.
Which is a very human thing to be. Animals don’t operate on hatred.
We are both the best and the worst that this world has to offer.
You’ve clearly never met chihuahua. The are kept alive thru hatred alone.
That’s a joke btw. I actually agree with you.
They’re people with a job they need to feed their families. The person who made the call wasn’t the one who made the decision.
I was a GM for a few dollar trees and had to have people kicked out for stealing toothache medicine. I know how bad toothaches can be, I understand they are homeless, but I had a job that needed to feed my family.
The world sucks not the people in it. We are all just slaves to this system we’ve built.
You can make the same argument for ICE, so I won’t buy it but I understand the pressure
I would just turn a blind eye if I saw someone stealing medicine
Well if it makes you feel any better I quit that job and got baker acted 4 times in a month for suicude attempts. So I guess we agree lol
My elbow will never bend right again because of that fight with the cops.
Before that I took in 6 homeless people to live with me while they got on their feet.
Have you ever held a man who drank himself to death because he was dieing of aids ? I cried the whole time to the hospital with him.
So… what exactly have you done to help the cause again? Aside from your chair sitting I mean?
Because ive helped so many people the universe won’t allow me to die. And boy howdy have I tried lots of ways. Life clings to me like a parasite.
You want to talk about ice? Have you ever sheltered an immigrant? I have.
I’m sorry for you but I don’t see how any of that has anything to do with turning a blind eye if I see someone stealing something from a dollar tree
I won’t virtue signal here, I can barely wake up every day to work while masking, let alone taking care of homeless people. So kudos to you for actually trying something
I just got a lot going on dude. I’m know for you’re perspective I just went off on you randomly… it isn’t you.
All I can say is “kudos to you” see how far that got me. I think I said before “how’d it work out for those saints in the Bible “
I’ve done a lot and it cost me a lot. So the best you can without losing yourself.
Sorry for my outburst. It really wasn’t personal at all. It was me.
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“Just following orders.”
I bet the people were like “smart alec”
I’m like “you go grandpa show them who’s boss”
He was a tough old man. He had all the patience in the world for us kids but none for adults who should know better.
His mom died in the dust bowl… from dust inhalation. Then he went to Italy to fight facists. Then came home and joined the board of health and helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.
Try he think they’re going to take his wheelchair? Come and take it!
Oh he also had his name legally changed so he wouldn’t be named after Robert E Lee anymore. He wasn’t a fan of slavery. He also wasn’t a fan of baby boomers. Called them “the me me me generation “
helped develop the rabbis vaccine they could put in meat and drop from planes. He’s the reason you never had to worry about getting rabbis in America.
We have lots of rabbis in America, someone should warn the Jewish population that there’s a vaccine for them! /s
(I’m pretty sure you mean “rabies” but yours is a hell of a lot funnier)
Oh shit… he had a hat that said Ww2 veteran we never asked “what side”!!! This changes everything!!! At least he was working on a cure tho… joke obviously.
Spelling isn’t my strong point. I’m a salesman and a great “talker” but spelling escapes me
Jokes aside rabies (that right) is a terrible way to go. It was a bigger deal back in the day. In some countries it’s still a big worry.
(So many edits) I’m imagining now my friend Zack who was Jewish walking thru the woods “is this free meat? Well can’t let it go to waste… wait why do I feel like god has left me all the sudden”
Rabies is absolutely horrifying…fear of water and the awful death… your Grandfather sounds absolutely badass.
I wish I could be like him. I guess I’m the dollar tree brand of him.
We all start there, it’s up us to grow the beans from dollar tree to history…I made a rhyme
wait why do I feel like god has left me all the sudden
Big mood, ahahaha
He also wasn’t a fan of baby boomers. Called them “the me me me generation"
Haha, I feel like basically every generation besides Gen X has been called this by this point, nice to know where it started though.
Your granddad’s biography would be legendary!
Oh I forget the best story because I just told someone earlier today. He had to pull him out of the nursing home because he kept bullying the younger trump supporters with “ I killed the Nazis once. I can kill them again if I have to”
My dad was a trump supporter up until he died but he voted democrat those years out of respect for my mom’s father.
I swear my grandfather had the presence of dumbledore from harry potter. Like him or don’t but you can’t help but respect him.
fuck trump supporters
DONT fuck trump supporters. It reminds me of the joke “if you go over to a persons house and don’t see any books… don’t fuck them”
Same with trump stuff. I’m asexual myself but I hear sex is a strong motivator for most men.
I just ment trump supporters suck
I know. I’m just being silly lol we live in dark times my friend. I force myself to find smiles whenever I can.
Oh I forget the best story because I just told someone earlier today. We had to pull him out of the nursing home because he kept bullying the younger trump supporters with “ I killed the Nazis once. I can kill them again if I have to”
My dad was a trump supporter up until he died but he voted democrat those years out of respect for my mom’s father.
I swear my grandfather had the presence of dumbledore from harry potter. Like him or don’t but you can’t help but respect him.
“refusing to leave”
Where, specifically, did they expect her to go? Being thrown out on the streets at 93 is effectively a death sentence.
not being able to work is a death sentence in America
guess the freedom in america is the “works makes you free” variety
I saw that sentence somewhere in German.
Reminder that socialist countries like Cuba or the USSR have historically de jure and de facto guaranteed employment, with worse economic conditions and over a half century ago. Unemployment is a capitalist construct and we can do better than that.
i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation.
what’s the point in having exponential productivity increase if we are all still expected to work full time or starve.
we could probably just set up a 20 hour week maximum and the economy would still run. just with less profits for the 1%, but they can go fuck themselves with syphilitic cacti.
i think we need to get rid of the mentality that work is a moral obligation
That’s up for debate, but my point was about work being a guaranteed universal right, not about it being forced at gunpoint.
It’s only up to debate if someone’s is a capitalist bootlicker.
I’m a communist, so no, the only way to debate this isn’t by being a capitalist bootlicker.
ok.
tankie bootlicker? if I’m off, please provide me a slur to use for you…
actually, besides pronouns, it would be polite to ask people for their slurs.
The cruelty is the point
State spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to chase a nonagenarian out of her home over a four figure rent check.
All so some landlord can afford another wing on the McMansion
“Hundreds of thousands of dollars” dude, absurd exaggeration doesn’t help anyone. an eviction requires a single non-emergency callout, which in flordia costs around $2500 (evictions are usually categorized as property crime)
Legal filings are covered by the landlord and are significantly more expensive (numbers I am seeing for florida are hovering around $5000, but like all things legal it varies wildly). This was disgusting, but the state isn’t paying out orders of magnitude more than the loss just to protect some random landlord.
Yeah it is. It’s going to cost between 20 and 30k a year to keep her in a prison, and tax payers will have to pay for her medical treatment as well
She’s 90 years old, it’s a safe conclusion that the taxpayer was already paying for her medical care via medicare and she was already released (from jail) and the charges were dropped (as has been pointed out elsewhere in this thread). The original comment just made up the cost to farm outrage, and it’s fucking ridiculous they felt the need to do that on a post about a 90 year old being evicted.
I know it’s rough to see propaganda you agree with called out, but that’s what’s happening here. That people are reacting as though I’m devaluing or excusing this travesty, I’m not, is the reason I’m doing it - even propaganda you agree with poisons the discussion. Hell, to my eye the cost to throw an ancient woman out of her housing being so incredibly cheap should really make this story all the more disgusting, as it highlights how cheap human suffering really is.
mcmansion is crazy
It’s a whole thing https://mcmansionhell.com/
Completely off topic, but had to look up what a nonagenarian is, and what a useless word. Who decided we needed such a long word to say “in their 90s”
No one made it up explicitly, it just follows the formula for the rest of the decade age words like octagenarian
Octagenarian, what a useless word. Let me know when you start looking at the sexagenarians. Oh baby!
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You got a problem with it? What are you, some kind of trenagenarian?
No! I’m a teenagemutantninjaterian thank you very much!
The Romans did or at least they created the base word structures. Primus, secundus, tertius, quartus, et cetera could all be compounded with the suffix genarian to create an age bracket specific word. For example I am a secundagenarian.
“Who decided” – like most word constructions, it probably wasn’t consciously decided upon by a single person but rather evolved out of existing phrases.
In this case, the Latin root nona- for ninth was extended with the -gin- / -gen- infix used for multiples of ten (viginti = 20, triginta = 30 and so on) to form the root nonaginti / nonageni for ninety / “per ninety”. The infix -ari- indicates an adjective/description (nonagenarius = “having ninety”), with the suffix -an indicating a representative noun.
Together, nonagenarian refers to “someone with ninety of something” as a logical composition of existing language elements, all of which you’ll find elsewhere too. It will probably have evolved naturally by people slapping on parts to describe something and others picking it up because it made sense. From there, it made its way into English as Latin words tend to.
If anything, we ought to appreciate that the “years” part of that composition is omitted, lest we would need to include something related to anni, maybe nonagenanniarian which would be even longer and more complex.
As to why people use it: Sometimes, a single descriptive noun or adjective is less ambiguous that multi-word structures. Sometimes, people want to mix up how they refer to things and use different words. Sometimes, people just want to sound erudite.
And sometimes, people pick up speech habits without much thinking about it, because they’re used to people understanding it. You didn’t, but congratulations: you learned a new word!
Completely off topic, but had to look up what a teenager is, and what a useless word. Who decided we needed such a long word to say “in their teens”
Completely off topic, but had to look up what a typhoon is, and what a useless word. Who decided we needed such a long word to say “ocean sky-fuckery”
who’s in their teens here don’t you have to be 18+??? (I don’t really think 18 or 19 year olds to be in their teens)
How do you even live with yourself if you’ve been a part of those proceedings?
I’d bet you hear a variation of, “just following orders.”
Delusion
How they live with themselves:
Every single assisted living facility in the United States would do the same thing. They are businesses designed to strip every last bit of wealth before we die, they do not give a shit about their
residentscustomers.Yeah but have you ever tried to care for aging parents outside of a retirement community, sucks all your time, money, and energy leaving nothing else for the rest of your family. End of life care is a great place to extract wealth if you’re heartless. People are their most scared and vulnerable, they’ll pay anything to feel normal for just a little while longer
Yes, my mother has advanced Parkinson’s and I was her primary caretaker for years before we finally had to move her into assisted living. I know very well how ill-equipped our society is for elder care.
People always talk about how it takes a village to raise a child, but we rarely talk about the village required to care for our elders.
Personally, I would rather kill myself than end up in a facility like my mom is in.
I think it says a lot when people remark they would rather be dead than in a assisted care facility. Something is clearly wrong with our system.
The sad part is, it’s one of the best facilities around in a very HCOL area. We pay $8000 per month just for room and board. When she needs more care that price will increase. You’d think with ~100 residents all paying at least that much that the place would be really good, right? But the staff is all paid minimum wage so they can’t hire people to provide the basic services they advertise, like transportation. The meals are all made from institutional wholesale ingredients like liquid “eggs”, frozen meat and vegetables, and red delicious apples.
My mom has been burgled by staff and ignored by caregivers while she was stuck on the toilet because the understaffing issue is so bad.
Most of the staff are great people, but the owners are making so much money that they could breed like rabbits and their great-great-grandchildren would never have to lift a finger in their lives.
Well like, what other options are there? Most retirement communities have been bought out by Atria or Life Care Services, stripped of anything that made them special and unique, then had their prices jacked way up. For elderly people they can either A) spend the money all the they could give as inheritance, and take on debt to live in the only places capable of supporting you, or B) kill yourself, give your children as much inheritance as possible and hope that you making that decision means your kids might not have to do the same when it’s their turn.
The best option is not to allow corporations to buy up and run assisted living centers to maximize profit. It is apparent that the US government should also be subsidizing and highly monitoring these facilities. They should have strict requirements for activities and care, no more laissez-faire regulating.
It’s the best option, and if you can figure out a way to do it I wish you all the luck in the universe. I won’t be holding my breath. No offense.
When I was in college I had a cohort and one of my colleagues was from an Eastern European country. He was married and had a few kids. He was trying to find a good daycare and came to me very confused.
He said that daycare where he was from was free and very high quality. They had set curriculum, good food, and the government checked in weekly to make sure the facilities were run correctly. He asked why all the US daycares were run down, no curriculum, poor food, poor worker pay, and also extremely expensive.
Here is a guy from a country we would probably look down upon just flabbergasted by our shitty daycare system. It was a real eye opener for me. Needless to say it is entirely possible to improve these facilities.
I think you are right though, unless we start trying to fix these problems holding our breathe is not going to help.
It’s funny how the person commenting is still saying unable to work as an argument. In what word a 93 able to work should be expected to… work?
I think they mean it more in the sense of “this lack of money at 93 is not the fault of the individual as there is no means for them to continue to bring in income” not "put her in the mines’
She’s too disabled to work in the coal mines. Otherwise she could do some 10 hour shifts and maybe afford a living with food stamps
More to that story… Turns out charges were dropped within days.
Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn’t need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible…
Hmmm.
Always look up the stories behind the memes. They might not really be about what you think they are.
There’s a bunch of articles with conflicting details. It does look like the facility tried a few different avenues before evicting her, but I haven’t seen a report mentioning involvement from a healthcare professional trained to handle situations like this. Every article does make it sound like that’s exactly what she needed though. It’s also entirely possible that when she said she thought she was going to die soon, she was referring to the potential mold issue she had been complaining about. I don’t think the article you linked mentions anything about that. I could be wrong though since I read a few.
There’s also this quote from another article:
Ms Fitzgerald, who was interviewed in jail while dressed in an orange jumpsuit, tearfully refuted the claims. Asked about why she would not pay the rent, the woman, who was handcuffed and appeared to have bruises up her arms, said of a housing facility employee: “She wouldn’t take it, that woman blamed me for the mould.” She added: “I paid my September rent and when she decided she was going to put me out, she wouldn’t accept any rent after that.”
The truth is probably somewhere between the two accounts. But honestly, that’s beside the point. Even if the living facility’s version was completely accurate, a 93 year old woman should not have ended up bruised and dragged out of her home by police just because she withheld rent for two months and refused to follow an order to vacate. Full stop.
Oh, I don’t disagree with you on that. She did apparently find permanent housing and I looked all over the place for later news on her like an obit or anything, actually… so I can only assume she’s still kicking somewhere and is now 100.
Like a 94 old person isn’t quite there any more and doesn’t know how to deal with labyrinthine bureaucratic processes?
Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn’t need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible…
And the full thing with context is this:
Karen Twinem, with National Church Residences, which owns the Franklin House where Fitzgerald has lived since April 2011, said Fitzgerald told the staff she held back rent for the past three months because she thought she was going to die soon. Fitzgerald denied that claim, telling News 6 that she tried to pay October rent but was denied.
So your provided context is misleading and it shows that most people trusted you and didn’t read the article for themselves.
This is the part I twigged on: “Fitzgerald denied that claim, telling News 6 that she tried to pay October rent but was denied…” the entire thing is fishy. I was witness to an almost identical event involving a relative who was nearly as old and was a passive-aggressive manipulator right up until the end. Not saying that the woman in the article was manipulative, as none of us really knows, other than the nursing home and because of HIPAA rules they can not say the real situation.
Generally, nursing homes will keep residents for as long as they can. If she was saying afterwards that she did not need donations, it speaks to the fact that she might not have been poor. This could have been, like in my own relative’s situation, that the nursing home staff was at their wit’s end with the resident. That she’s saying she had money and they STILL wanted her out… That’s a HUGE red flag that the resident is problematic.
My own relative was caught lying repeatedly to the point where the home had to double up staff when they interacted with her because she would claim her property was being stolen or things didn’t show in the mail that she claimed had arrived…(Had to call the person who was sending the item and in fact, it was still on his kitchen table waiting to be mailed…)
The final line she crossed was that she had a Medtronic pump for her pain meds and she refused to give up the bolus that she’d dose herself with. They had their own scheduling for medications and of course with that, timing is everything so there was no control… She was put into a police car against her will and sent to her home. Was so aggro with the cops they threatened to book her for disruptive behavior. Bounced right back into a different facility that had a bit more robust drug control policy and within a few short months got busted for smoking in her room… with a roommate in the bed next to her that was on oxygen.
That was a fiasco of spectacular proportions. The temper tantrum she had after they turfed her room and took all the cigarette lighters and matches was thermonuclear and involved no less than half a dozen policemen trying to get her sorted.
When you deal with seniors that are really old, you CAN sometimes be dealing with someone that isn’t going to play nice.
Sounds like you had a pretty shitty relative. I’m still going to withhold blaming the woman while both sides have contradictory accounts so different someone is obviously lying. I don’t doubt there is a chance this woman is like you say, but we don’t have enough information to infer, so I prefer to wait before casting blame until we know the truth of the situation.
Which we likely will never get, but hey if it ever goes to court, maybe we’ll get to find out someday.
The thing that leads me to think she might have been/is a toxic person, is that I could not find a single follow up to her story.
No family came out of the woodwork to explain her situation and defend it… no social care workers saying they found her accommodation elsewhere… just nothing.
Which… is unusual for a story like this.
Not even an obituary for someone with her name that would be of the right age.
Hmmm. Red flags all over this one. Will likely never know for sure.
Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn’t need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible…
Damn you know what, in that case she totally deserved it.
Like who fucking cares? Why do you even think that’s something important to mention?
The guy you responded too was misleading, the full quote in his own article paints a completely different story.
It means the disaster was self imposed, not forced by the system.
Read the article, the guy you replied to cut context, the care facility said she told them that, but she claims she tried to pay rent but couldn’t and that she never said that.
You added absolutely nothing of relevance to the story.
People who aren’t around 90 year olds expect they are as keen as the 90 year olds on TV.
At 90 there is always some dementia. He is treating this like it is some thought out plan instead of confusion.
I’ve known multiple 90+ year olds that were cognitively very capable, not at their peak certainly but to say everyone gets dementia is wrong.
Dementia is not just a small cognitive decline.
She said “Bible” so she’s religious, ergo bad.
Throw her to the wolves!
They must be catering to that huge “atheist but not socialist” demographic on Lemmy.
Secular libertarians somehow manage to be worse than religious ones
The most disturbing part of this is, she made it to 93, and wasn’t able to pay rent. Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?
Like, she’s not even just retired, she’s elderly. The “Golden years” of wearing a diaper and needing a walker, kind of elderly.
Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home, the fact that it got to the point where she was hauled off to jail in an orange jumpsuit and cuffs should not have happened. Someone should have stopped and said, “are we really going to try to send a 93 year old to jail?” And that should have been where it stopped. Because that’s not something you do to a 93 year old for missing a few rent payments.
America is cracked man. Should not have gotten there. What the actual fuck.
Yup.
American here.
As far as I can tell we are totally fucked. As in, if I was smart, I’d be finding a way to get citizenship elsewhere before I get too old.
Social Security was supposed to float them after the time they could make a living. That’s drying up faster than water in a desert Nestle is siphoning from.
Man, I only retired 3 years ago, for medical reasons, and with only just enough money. In that 3 years, essentially everything has doubled in cost. In another 3 years it will probably double again. So, it’s pretty easy to see me being in a similar situation eventually, although at least I do own my home. Many retired people on fixed incomes are feeling the squeeze…
I’m still working and things are getting more expensive faster than I’m getting raises. I don’t own a home and doubt I ever will be able to afford it so my only retirement option is a shotgun.
Even if the charges were dropped and she was allowed to go home
They had her shit on the curb by the time the squad car rolled off.
The people living in America exist solely to serve the needs and wants of the oligarchy. If you’re not working to make them more entrenched, you are useless and they would really prefer you just die.
Does America have no way to pay their retired and elderly people a living wage at the end of their life?
No. Everytime there is, conservatives cry antichrist and pull Usain Bolt shit trying to get it repealed.
They’re about as close as you get to being the literal Sith… outside of North Korea, I guess.
You can’t be 'the richest country in the world" if 40% of your citizens are in poverty. The US “gov” is corrupt and greedy. This place truly is a shithole…
Sire you can , it’s called inequality.
I wish GDP got the same amount of pushback from people that BMI does whenever anyone mentions it
That claim is of course being made by the richest people in the country.
of course its florida. eventually florida will be evicted by the ocean,
The exact same thing would happen in California. Assisted living facility owners are crooks.
This is what republicans seem to want. Thinking THEY will never be in such a situation so they have nothing to worry about.
The funny thing is they keep thinking that well into their 70s living in trailer park. Led by a guy with one foot in the grave stealing billions …for what?
Y’all should change the dollar bill line from “in God we trust” to “Got mine, fuck you”
Isn’t that what “in God we trust” means already?
Yeah and God is the rigged system they put in place
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I dont understand why you handcuff people who clearly are not a danger to anyone.
Because acab
Because knives are easy to hide, and it only takes one free hand to grab an officers gun.
That isn’t why. That’s the excuse.
Few people can discern the difference.
That is in fact why. It only takes a moment of inattention. Even if they are 90 it’s not like they move in slow motion or something. Sure, they can slow down with age, but that’s not universal.
Ok, so what’s the problem if a 93 year old stabs a cop that’s come to kill her?
Seems incredibly hyperbolic to say he’s there to kill her, but you do you.
I would be most interested in talking to the 93 year old woman that can successfully grab the officer’s gun.
I’d imagine she makes amazing blueberry muffins.
So you mean they will house her only in a more expensive and more dehumanizing way.
America is insane.
Not insane, America is addicted to narcissism.
