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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez holds a slight lead over Vice President JD Vance in a hypothetical 2028 presidential matchup, according to a new poll.
The New York Democratic congresswoman, known as AOC, edges the likely Republican nominee 51% to 49%, in The Argument/Verasight survey released on Tuesday. However, the result was within the poll’s 2.7 percentage point margin of error, making the two candidates statistically tied. The poll asked voters who they would vote for if the election was between the two of them.
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Shame AOC and Bernie could not hijack the Democratic Party like Krasnov did to the fucking GOP.
I wish her the best of luck if she decides to run and she would stomp on Vance.
alexandria ocasio-cortez should indeed run for president. seriously!
good
…they’ll run abbott, not vance…
The DNC will use all their resources to sabotage her and place a Israeli loyalist that supports insider trading, forgiving the criminals in charge now, not reversing any of the shareholder first policies and deregulation and continuing to ratchet us to Nazi land while gaslighting us about how great the economy is because line go up for the capitalist class.
Part of the reason why social democracy is so important on the path to socialism is because line must go up for everyone or we’re totally screwed. I have no doubt the DNC will do whatever it can to undermine a candidate like AOC, but if we can implement a policy like Medicare for all, that will be a massive win for getting to the goal in more ways than one.
Or AOC will win and become what you described.
i mean she would have to, if she wanted to live.
Ahh yes… The very free and fair 2028 elections we’ll being having. The Republicans definitely won’t try every trick in the book to manipulate them or stop them outright. Nevermind establishment Dems fucking over primaries to shoehorn in their milquetoast candidates, while fucking over actual progressives!
I am so looking forward to voting our way out of fascism/ a dictatorship, as has absolutely been exhibited to work multiple times through history.
what would lenin do?
we need socialism
My fucking neighbor has a Trump 2028 sticker right under his Israeli flag
Historically strong state men love minorities and Jewish in particular
/s
I suspect that we will find that lead ballots hold more weight, when it comes to voting.
Awww, that’s fun. People think we’re going to have an election in 2028.
You think you’ll have elections again? Lmao
Just another example of how America is collapsing under the weight of its own corporate/oligarch dictatorship, corruption, ignorance, racism, and mental illness epidemic.
An intelligent, empathetic leader is basically tied with a traitorous, criminally sociopathic, con artist who possesses zero morals or ethics, and literally works for someone he previously called Hitler…
If the US weren’t a failed state, Trump would be in prison and Vance would be a fucking nobody.
JD Vance has zero charisma, idk how he can be in the race but, well… Trump.
Because he gets a baseline of like 35% just for having R next to his name.
Objectively during the VP debate I’d say he had more charisma than Walz if you’re dumb.
He can command a stage, but he was saying utter nonsense while doing it. Basically he said things well, but if you actually listened to his words you should see through it.
Unfortunately too many people are just there for the performance and not the facts.
It’s how 2016 Trump beat Hillary imo. The man was an actor and basically just did crowd work. Anyone with 2 braincells could see through it but well that’s not enough people
I find it ironic that Vance has talked about Europe supposedly not being democratic and supposedly not listening to the will of the people. Hillary Clinton in 2016 (whether you like her or not) got more votes than Trump. If the US respected the will of the people, they’d get rid of the electoral college, and they would have inaugurated Hillary as president.
Even when ordering a doughnut. It’s sad.
He has the backing of Big Couch
A hell of a lot needs to happen before AOC has a snowballs chance in hell in 2028. Like, Trumps impeachment — to start.
I had no idea who this JD Vance person was until he became trump’s running mate. Dude you’re not popular or interesting on your own. Don’t act like people actually like you, couch fucking baby.
You’ve been flying blind. JD’s been the spectre haunting American politics since the Obama Era. That creepy little turd’s backed his way up the drainpipe of American politics with the help of everyone from James Dobson to Oprah. He’s the Republicans’ Hillary Clinton.
He’s a Peter Thiel project. They met when Vance was in either college or law school. Shillbilly never would have met any of those people without Thiel’s help. Probably would never even have gotten a book deal trashing his family.
His best-selling memoir was turned into a Ron Howard film that got 2 Oscar nominations. He wasn’t nobody.
Ron Howard directed JD Vance’s biopic in 2020.
For anyone that isn’t aware of it: Hillbilly Elegy
At first I misread that as Howard Stern.
I was imagining him sitting around with a couple of strippers making a bunch of couch fucker jokes.
It’s not too late. We can still have this movie made! Somebody call Stern’s agent!
Fuuuuck yes!!!
JFC, “JD” “Vance” is about as appealing as a bucket of piss. How in the fuck is this even close?
I get it - AOC doesn’t have a dong and so a lot of mouthbreathers rule her out on that alone. But still, Christ. This is the stupid bootlick that called Donvict a Nazi and is now his VP and sits there and chastises one of our allies like some kind of cartoon bully.
America has repeatedly proven it will not vote for a woman, no matter how qualified she is
We’ve proven we don’t like centrist women with status quo platforms pretty convincingly. Anything more is speculative imo.
And yet it’s elected centrist man after centrist man. Funny, that.
The last time there was another option on the table he became the first black president in our nation’s history. Perhaps there’s a lesson to be learned there.
I think it’s a stretch to say Obama wasn’t centrist, but really it’s irrelevant. US voters were fine with voting in centrist men in if they were appealing enough, but once a centrist woman is put up, they’ll let a self-confessed wannabe dictator into office with hardly a fight.
Obama certainly acted like a centrist but that’s not how he campaigned which means that’s not what won him the election.
Again, irrelevant. Also, he won twice, so his initial campaign wasn’t the end all be all, either.
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I guarantee you a far left woman like AOC is not going to get elected. Too many independents think she’s too far left. The right can win by being extreme right. The left can’t win by being extreme left. Not in this shithole.
It’d be good if we could define things like “far left”. AOC may be progressive, but not sure she’s really far left anything.
She’s about where the Democrats used to be and supposedly stood for at one time. Probably pre-Clinton for sure. The Republicans have been dragging the window to the right for years and years and all the money in politics sure ain’t helping.
Nothing about affordable health care and not trying to actively poison the planet as much as possible is extreme left
That’s what they said about far left black men until Obama came along running as a progressive and won handily. For some reason we didn’t learn any lessons from that and went right back to boring centrist candidates afterwards.
The women who were presented to America had many more problems than their gender. I’m not discounting the reality that a woman has to be exceptional to be considered adequate by the electorate, but “America will not vote for a woman” is true until it’s not.
America voted for Clinton
Yeah irc she won the popular vote. Unfortunately it’s the electoral collage vote that wins you elections.
So the issue is not Clinton being a woman but the issue is the political system that americans never tried to change
Nah, I just think you personally are sexist and are looking to voters to validate your beliefs. Americans will vote for a women candidate. They just won’t vote for an uninspiring third way Democrat, whether they have a vag or not.
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Kamala?
Ok, yes, true, but Kamala never was chosen via the primary process, she was just forced on us as the default choice.
Vance won’t be the candidate and everyone knows it but Vance.
I’d bet on Tucker Carlson. 🤢
It’s going to be Donald Trump Jr. They won’t even need to change the hats.
I fear it’ll still be Trump, assuming he’s alive
Is it in any way legal? No. Has that stopped him yet? Also no.
I really want him to think he’s going to run again so that he’ll undermine anyone else that tries to run. And then he can croak or something after ruining the primaries and getting his followers to hate any would be successor.
I’ve stopped being so hopeful. The best I can hope for at this point is President Camacho
He actually listened to the experts.
As we all should.
That was one of the most unbelievable aspects of that movie.
There was like 500 years of people not listening to experts in between. It was bound to happen at some point.
He gets to the debates, then zones out and literally shits his diaper (audibly).
I don’t even think Trump can legally be president today.
And on top of what you said, there’s also the possibility that Trump will be alive but too senile to run.
He can’t legally run. He also has yet to be actually stopped from any of his other actions that are blatantly illegal so there is zero proof that he’ll stop now
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
The 14th Amendment doesn’t say that he can’t run. It says that he can’t hold any office. Trump has a “disability” from when he engaged in insurrection by intentionally inciting it, and that disability has not been removed by Congress.
This disability does not require he be convicted of any crime. Instead, the 14th Amendment simply requires that Congress enforce the Amendment:
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
Donald Trump cannot legally hold any office under the United States. He cannot legally be president. The only reason he’s able to act like the president now is that Congress is not enforcing the Constitution.
I wouldn’t be surprised if, at some point in the future, perhaps even after Trump passes away, Congress finally grows some backbone and enforces the amendment, just to try to make up for the embarrassment that Trump causes us, similar to how the Germans would rather not remember that Hitler had been the Chancellor of Germany. Trump might be retroactively declared to have never been the president after January 6, 2021, and I think that would be in line with what is written in the Constitution.
I agree but I don’t think Trump’s body will hold out that long before collapsing from being treated like the dumpster it is.
With Marg as VP?
People didn’t want Kamala because she wasn’t democratically elected as the leader of the party in a primary so they let full blown fascism take over instead. They felt it was more important to send the Democrats a message instead of actually keeping some minimal form of democracy and freedom. 🙄
So they’ll probably not vote for AOC if she becomes leader of the Democratic party anyway because of some minor excuse, like how she supported Israel’s right to exist, or something. And the US will end up with a third Trump mandate.
I hope the US will prove me wrong. My hope in Americans doing the right thing is pretty low.
Kamala pr was so terrible that she lost because of the issue of economy and border protection
