I have no mouth and I must Doom.
Honestly? Sounds preferable to being stuck in the universe of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream… I’ll take a challenging power fantasy with some massively overpowered weapons over millennia of endless physical and psychological torture by an insane AI… might just be me though…
Didn’t the thought emporium work on this?
Yeah they are working on this for sure. The video series is available here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZLsjPxmF1BE1BAAeJgF2A17pKxeIBGm8
Raises uncomfortable questions about consciousness. The only difference between these neurons and your own are the number of them and the structures they form. Of course it doesn’t know what it’s doing, but… Neither do our own neurons
Science and Ethics — the age old enmity between “I wanna know” and “I’m not allowed to find out”
And now bring artificial neural networks, i.e., AI, into the picture to make it even more spicy.
Do those neurons interact with hormones like mine do?
Nueralink did pretty much the same thing to monkeys that are actually conscious. So it this different only because those are human neurons? Is human consciousness different than animal consciousness?
i dont think op made a mutually exclusive statement?..
I’m not sure this is quite analagous to neuralink’s monkey experiments. That said,
So is this different only because those are human neurons?
To my mind, a neuron is a neuron. The only difference between your brain and a monkey brain is, again, the number of neurons and the structures they form. I don’t see this as any different from monkey or rat or ant or entirely digital neurons.
I’m not sure this is quite analagous to neuralink’s monkey experiments.
Why not? It’s a chip reading inputs from neurons. This meme doesn’t make it clear if the chip was also stimulation neurons but Neuralink has plans for neural stimulation and it’s possible this was also tested on monkeys. So what’s the difference?
You seem to be arguing against a point that no one has made.
You seem not to understand what is being discussed here.
Yes. Because it’s us. Anything not us is always going to be less valuable. You’d kill 100 lions if it means saving 1 human.
Lions are not conscious. And I’m not asking about value. Of course we value human consciousness more than monkey consciousness. We don’t grant monkeys any rights. Hell, we assign more value to unconscious (brain dead) humans than to conscious monkeys. But how exactly is human consciousness different?
… Am I missing something, or is this not like, the practical, if not lore accurate first step toward actually creating a:
the only missing component is a minigun, robotic spyder legs and positive reinforcement coctail whenevet it kills a person.
Next step, give it spider legs and a gattling gun!
So we’re just going full head of steam into a combo of the torment nexus and AM
Torment Nexus but with a win condition
It would not know what hell is, just that humanoids are enemies.
And tomatos
Taking “will it run doom” one step too far.
A closer example would be if it could use the console in linux since it’s only playing dom not running it, I wonder if wetware would be any better as a coding assistant than ai
playing dom
I do not think we should train a bioengineered intelligence with guns to do that.
Don’t kink shame
Hey human doms I’m 100% okay with, it’s these things I’m worried about
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/doom/images/2/27/Meet_spider.png/revision/latest
Is anyone else really skeeved out by the term “wetware”, or is that just me
Shadowrun used the term “bioware” instead, do you like that better?
Nah I prefer wetware. This should heebie your jeebies
We need to take it back a step and see if it’ll run Linux.
Asking someone to compile the kernel with their mind sure is one way to give someone a headache
I wanna see Linus’ reaction to that pull request.
I can imagine a new AI hellscape where LLMs are run on human brain cells in a test tube. So you’re never quite sure if you’re talking to a mere algorithm … or an enslaved proto-human who might be conscious and whose entire existence revolves around answering your inane online queries.
Can they run console commands?
Yeah now it’s “will it speedrun DOOM?”
Is this how the Borg began? Suddenly makes more sense with the outfits.
So they are growing doom guy.
Baby steps towards growing a Wolfenstein guy, we’ll get there. Maybe around the time they put Trump in a life support mech.
It’ll be good telly, I bet.
Funny just finished listening to John Romero audiobook DoomGuy wonder what he think of this?
Having worked with human neurons harvested from dead people, there are worse ways to extend your life. At least these ones get to play games instead of getting poked and zapped by me.
Could you poke and zap me?
Poke, yes. Zap is too weak to do much in live people but if I break out the old electrolytic brain lesion maker you’ll feel it.
I mean, I was thinking more like TENS …
OwO
You know this isn’t even the weirdest flirting I’ve seen online today. It’s a notable thread, but not too bad.
Enjoy the shocks
What can I say, they saw a spark and went for it. May the odds forever be in their favor lol
Can I gulp down your arm to see what happens? Fairly sure I can fit it.
This happened in American Dad!
IIRC, there were consequences.
I have neurons, can you zap me?
*Unplugs spark plug wire with kinky intent*
Very interested in what you’re doing to these dead meatballs.
This is my favorite comment thread I have experienced on Lemmy so far.
Maybe this will lead to San junipero for real
or at least Striking Vipers…
Heckin gamer.
It’s having more fun than I am.
Maybe the real hell is the life we’ve lived along the way.
This is the bad place!
Maybe this experience is just a higher being’s analog of Doom and we’re just cells in a petri dish running an MMORPG version it. Stupidest simulation theory ever, but hey man, we’re sorta doing it so how stupid can it be?
