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    It’s part of the reason they don’t want phones in schools.

    All they have to do is enforce harassment. It’s like trying to put a toy in timeout because your kid misused it. The kid learns nothing and moves on to the next toy. Simply put them into detention. The parents will fix that shit quick.

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        Yes. I’m sorry to say so many parents can’t comprehend that their children are acting horribly. The teachers/administrators/other students must be lying!

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    And they will wonder why nobody will treat them like an adult when they are physically old enough. At least that’s how it should be, IMO. My vote is to emasculate their toxic masculinity and treat them like the little boys they are.

    If nothing else, they either be treated like little kids the rest of their life or maybe learn about a questionable kink they never knew they had if they don’t shape up.

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    Obviously the existence of these pedo glasses is problematic to say the least, but aren’t they also super expensive? How the hell are kids able to afford these?

    In Australian dollarydoos they start from $469. What teenager is spending $469 on anything?

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      well parents in the states already gift thier young teens expensive iphones/samsung phones as a way to communicate with them. meta glasses isnt a stretch. milleneals had the benefit of graduating hs before smartphones became common.

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      They have parents who consume their faux affection via monetary transactions.

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    How many middle and high school kids are getting Meta’s pervert glasses as gifts?! How are people affording these?

    Like there is nothing else you’d want before some shitty novelty?

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      I live in a nice area. The number of families with absurd amounts of money is staggering. I have a good job and am well paid.

      These fuckers put me to shame. Trips to Europe for a weekend. They only go skiing in Colorado, never anywhere else. Expensive hotels, $80k cars for themselves and the kids.

      I have zero clue what any of them do. Maybe a handful appear to be marginally intelligent. Did the inherit it? Play the stock lottery?

      All I know is that a pair of pervert glasses are fucking NOTHING for these people. A family I know buys the best airpods (I don’t know, not an apple person) in bulk because the kids lose them so often. They hand them out like Halloween candy.

      Never underestimate the vast number of people with more money than sense.

      I am so deeply frustrated that despite busting my ass for years in what is otherwise a successful career that these people could buy and sell me with quarter of one dividend check.

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        Yup. I also live in a nice area.

        I worked at a small business for 6 years. We shipped alcohol across the entire country, had major holiday orders even for things like NBC, the today show, and lion’s gate did their holiday gifts through us.

        Suffice to we made fuckin bank, and were comprised of 12 employees when I started. 4 cashiers, 4 management who were also capable and willing to fill in and help lower level laborers, and we had of course, the 4 lower level laborers, myself included initially.

        In 2023 I was promoted to shipping manager and salaried, pay was good and and the year end bonus from the owner was decent.

        In 2023 we were already down to 8 employees. Order volume was up over 3 years, so less people were fulfilling more work. I was fresh off my promotion so I was pretty blind for a bit.

        Cut to this year and we had 5 employees. Order volume was slightly higher than it was in 2023. 5 people were now doing more work than 12 were just 6 years prior.

        To give some perspective: As shipping manager, one holiday order from a local customer, would be for 100 individual bottles of wine shipped with gift notes inside each once and each bottle gift wrapped.

        We had around 15 of these holiday orders and 13 of them came in after December 5. We brought in 1 person for seasonal help.

        So just counting the holiday orders, excluding our in store and base online orders that include an email mailing list of 12,000 customers , put us even with conservative estimates at 1,500 individual bottles of alcohol that needed to be brought into the store, gift wrapped, individual cards made, and shipped in time for Christmas.

        6 people was not enough. My mental health was destroyed and I had major depressive disorder until I finally quit this year.

        My boss would keep cutting people, bitching about money, pushing ridiculous sales when we had no staffing, and all the while he travels to Europe with his family multiple times a year, has a 7 bedroom home, drives a Mercedes, and not one mother fucking time gave up any of it.

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    Sorry for projecting trauma into the comments. 🤦🏻‍♂️. That wasn’t chill. I cringed at my previous comment.

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      These devices are expensive.

      Teenage girls - If you spot them… Grab them and smash them.

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        And don’t be afraid to smash the face that wears them. Collateral damage, after all, is always expected.

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          Well… my daughter is authorized by her parents to use as much violence as she deems appropriate to anyone who would harass her.
          But we all know that would get her expelled from the school for 1… or 3… or every day(s).

          If you add to that from the comments above that kids with perv-glasses are from rich families, probably contributing significantly to whatever charity in the school, they may not get the justice they deserve.

          So smash the glasses, ok. Make a show, and be sure everyone hears loud and clear “fucking pervert”. Reputation can’t be bought back easily.

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        As much as I haye the existence of these devices, independent of context bit especially for what this thread is about, I think that isn’t a good idea. I do not trust that the girls have backing and are safe by doing this, any kid who has something this expensive will have parents that have power enough to really fuck with the lives of any girl who’d do this.
        I wish this wasn’t the case, but waves widely at the world proves otherwise.

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      Showing may age here 🤣 but back in 2005, I had a film camera shaped like a juice box that I thought was the coolest thing on the planet. The straw was how you took pictures, the lens was hidden in the logo.

      There was no film in it because I just wanted to show it off but yeah… School didn’t give a fuck.

      Then again I’m autistic and I was super into the spy stuff. I think that came with one of those spy kits and I annoyed the shit out of my family with those beeping door sensors and I genuinely concerned someone by eating the edible paper. I made one of my sisters friends scream at the top of her lungs because she had no idea who I was when I wore the sunglasses with mirrors to see behind you and a fake mustache and I was into disguises.

      But there’s a difference between being a kid and having fun and things inadvertently happening vs being a menace and a dickhead to those around you.

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        But that’s completely different thing. Pervert glasses allows boys to see fake naked girls, but perv cams at bathroom allows officials to see the real deal. American ucle Donnie would be proud!

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      Phones, cameras, watches with cameras, GoPros are all all ready allowed, why would this be any different? Some schools even have equipment to rent to make videos, or their news program has some, yearbook group, etc.

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        Using a camera as part of a group project is very different from secretly filming people throughout the school day when they’re supposed to be doing other things.

        Surely you can tell the difference…

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          Using a camera as part of a group project

          Well in that case the solution is simply to have the school provide such utensils, for use only in the time period when the project takes place.

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          Unlike the security cameras that already do you mean… yeah?

          A school is a public place, there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy.

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            A school is a public place, there’s no reasonable expectation of privacy.

            I am fucking sick and tired of this absolute garbage argument.

            “No expectation of privacy” does not mean publicizing any video for any purpose is OK. It does not mean stalking is OK. It does not mean a goddamned panopticon is OK!

            What’s happening now – with every act potentially stored in perpetuity, psycho-analyzed, and fed into generative AI for the purpose of deepfaking or who knows what else – is in a wholly different category that goes beyond “public!”

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            I don’t recall a student being able to bring a security camera to school. In fact, every single security camera I’ve seen in a school has (seemingly) belonged to the school, not to any individual.

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    Laying the ground for republicans banning eyeglasses entirely - because eyeglasses show intent to learn, which is dangerous…

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        Yes AND they are hypocrites as demonstrated time and time again (e.g. conservatives working to ban porn production/access while being unapologetic fans of said exploitation of women and marginalized groups).

        Not as simple as you’d like. It’s a mindfuck on purpose for the confusion and because they are stupid and reckless.

        So put that “nah” away, friend.

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        so fun* fact, there never was an official order relating to glasses, and indeed Pol Pot himself as well as several other senior Khmer Rouge minister publicly wore glasses. But what they did do was set up a system were city folk and intellectuals were treated with a level of suspicion high enough that any low-level Khmer Rouge member could cite the ownership of glasses as sufficient evidence to execute someone for being a counter-revolutionary.

        https://www.shadowsofutopia.com/blog/did-the-khmer-rouge-really-kill-everyone-who-wore-glasses

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    A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn’t exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn’t even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We’re not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.

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      I mean, most of your early value comes from your parents (or closest adult influence), and presumably the parents needed to buy the very expensive device.

      So yeah they can be blamed.

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        Again, we aren’t going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you’re correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn’t get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.

        Edit: Everybody that’s saying it’s the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?

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          Refusing to blame the people responsible means you can’t take steps to correcting the behavior. You need the culprit identified first.

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              How about both? They’re not mutually exclusive. You can acknowledge that there are systems in plays incentivizing the behavior while also holding the people who do the behavior accountable.

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          Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.

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          Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it’s not to us, specifically, to fix things.

          Blame and shame, is the name of the game.

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      Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem

      A system made up of individual people…

      No one EVER wants to take personal responsibility. God forbid a parent actually parent and not just hand their child’s mind over to the state.

      Timmy - Can I have meta glasses / mindrape myself with brainrot?

      Parent - No.

      Problem solved over night.

      Shifting all of the onus onto the “mysterious system” is exactly what causes these issues in the first place. Its a cop out 100%. “Well I know I didnt even try but but but the system.”

      Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.

      The parents are shitty parents and will continue to be so as long as people keep hand-waving any and all responsibility.

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        Like, I agree with you, except that

        Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.

        Could mean people get new legislation passed or something. Otherwise, we’re basically just telling people to choose not to be addicted to heroin.

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          I expect parents not to facilitate harrassment by purchasing pedo glasses for their child. Am I expecting too much? Maybe. But I literally cannot lower the bar any further.

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      Yet “it takes a school to raise’m”‽
      It is the parents job to educate children the value of privacy, and how to maintain it.
      Corporations, thus capitalism, exist because the parents have allowed them to invade their privacies too. Corporations wouldn’t exist if the demand for violating privacy existed: the parents are harassers too.

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    I’ve seen a lot of hand-wringing about boys being victims of the manosphere but I kinda think gen-x are maybe just some of the worst fucking parents

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      I’m starting to think everyone blames some past generation, whose judgement was doped by their parents habits when they were kids too, as the source of the current problems and I can’t tell you how fucking looney it is that hardly anyone understands fucking causality. It makes me want to wring my motherfucking hands.

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        When you are tired after both parents come home from work I can understand why parents would set their kid in front of an ipad, thinking it’s harmless. Only recently are we finding out that the algorithms became extremely addictive, destroy attention spans, and push alt right influencers on impressionable young men. I’m not going to allow my kid on any screen where they have free access to the algorithm until they are at least 16.

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      Pretty sure mellenials are the majority of parents, including parents of teens, right now.

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        Exactly. The youngest millennial is 30 right now. The oldest is 45. They are ripe teenager parent ages from 35-45.

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        I don’t think so? Starting to creep into it though. Gen Z cut off (majority were parented by Gen X) is 14 years old right now, and people are having children older, so I think the gradient is still mostly gen X. Of course that doesn’t make millennials good parents either. I’m admittedly singling out Gen X based on personal vendettas, lol

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          Alternating generations don’t really line up with each other that well. Younger Gen Z are children of Mellenials.

          I am on the ass end of Gen X (late 1970s) and almost 50. Most people had kids earlier than me and my kid is about to graduate.

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      GenX aren’t usually the parents of school-aged kids are they? I don’t know, say 16 (kid’s age) + 26 (age when parent had child) = 42, which is Millenial currently. Genx would have been on average 5-15 years older.

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      Nobody knows how to parent. How could anyone when every lesson you learn is outdated within a decade, if not sooner, and the environment is constantly being filled with new tech that rewrites social norms with little to no oversight? Don’t expect this to improve with millenials, gen z or gen a. As long as the pace of change continues at the rate we have, the challenges of parenthood will be beyond most parents.

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      @EmilieEasie @Midnight

      Agreed, looking at the article it is the parents or adults who are buying for the kids, or providing an allowance and the kids buy their own.

      This is what happens when generations are raised without the word NO because some numpty has decreed saying no harms children. There was a time when NO meant NO.

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        I don’t think they’re raised with anything, not much yes either. My parents were really early Gen X, they fit the latchkey stereotype pretty well, and they had SUCH a laissez faire style of parenting that shocked me as I got older and compared more to my friends with boomer parents.

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    😒 And now they’re going to have put a school wide notice saying no smart glasses and then they’re gonna have people disobey that and not bring a back up pair and then their parents are gonna have to come out of work to bring them not smart glasses.

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    Stop blaming the kids, it’s the corporation’s fault. Title should be Meta glasses are recording and enabling harassment of underaged school children

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      1. Corporation makes evil thing.
      2. Evil people use evil thing.

      There’s enough blame to go around, don’t worry.

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      So did smart phones a social media and they suffered zero consequences. We’re just lab rats they experiment on with whatever tech decide to make next.

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    Kids are being shit asses and using tools for malicious purposes because everyone involved with being responsible for them has shrugged responsibility and action! More at a 11!

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    This is the same argument they had with guns. If girls had their own pervert glasses, they could record the harassment going on. Similar to “if they had a gun, they could defend themselves” I genuinely hate that this is the hot button for a country that represents me than 10 percent of the global population. Let this place rot.