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    Until we know more we shouldn’t.

    We shouldn’t glorify a person. We should glorify a deed. His intention most likely wasn’t to shoot the bourgeoise, but just to shoot people. He just happened to get her.

    But out of 4 victims we know one was a CEO and one was a cop. So only the other two may be innocents.

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    Last week, the Department of Justice announced it had filed an amended complaint to its antitrust lawsuit against RealPage in order to sue six of the largest U.S. landlords for their alleged participation in a nationwide rental price-fixing scheme. According to the complaint, the six landlords allegedly coordinated their rents with each other through use of RealPage’s pricing algorithms and direct communication with competitors about rents and occupancy, among other tactics. Of those six landlords, three are owned by private equity firms: Blackstone, Greystar Real Estate Partners, and Cortland Management.

    Blackstone, the nation’s largest landlord, with around 350,000 rental units, has faced years of scrutiny from advocates for its poor treatment of tenants. In August, the Private Equity Stakeholder Project (PESP) and the Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment (ACCE) published a report examining how Blackstone has profited from rent hikes and ramped up evictions in California. In 2021, Blackstone acquired 5,800 rental units in the San Diego area. Since then, the report showed, Blackstone has increased the rent at these properties 38% — almost double the 20% average rent increase for all apartments in the San Diego market during this period. The rent increase at some Blackstone-owned buildings was especially high – up to 79%. The report also noted how Blackstone touted to investors multiple times how the firm’s real estate investments benefit from declining new supply of housing, a key driver of the affordable housing crisis.

    “As more and more Americans struggle with the cost of putting a roof over their heads, corporate landlords were allegedly colluding to raise rents ever higher,” said Jordan Ash, Director of Housing at PESP. “Everyday Americans can’t keep up with the cost of rent. Homelessness is skyrocketing. Folks are choosing between medicine and a place to live. We applaud the Department of Justice for taking decisive action to hold profiteers like Blackstone accountable.”

    https://pestakeholder.org/news/pesp-statement-on-department-of-justice-action-against-private-equity-landlord-blackstone-for-alleged-rental-price-fixing-scheme/

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    I would only be impressed if somebody actually did something about the conditions that created the CEO in the first place.

    Bullets are famously ineffective against these conditions.

    You can shoot a capitalist, but you can’t shoot capitalism.

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      You can shoot a capitalist, but you can’t shoot capitalism.

      Not with that attitude you can’t.

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      he wasn’t even motivated against capitalism. he was an athlete who suffered from CTE and asked for his brain to be examined in a note before he shot himself in the chest with a rifle (something that requires a bit of forethought - he deliberately saved his brain for analysis). https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/us-news/nyc-shooter-shane-tamura-thanked-a-cte-documentary-and-listed-names-of-prominent-neuroscientists-in-suicide-note-sources/

      This was supposed to be anti pro-sports violence, I guess.

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        I bet they won’t even do a brain exam. It will be seen as “giving the killer what he wanted” and “disrespecting his victims” if they honor his request.

        Most importantly the NFL will get to keep pretending everything is fine.

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          Most importantly the NFL will get to keep pretending everything is fine.

          fuck. this is depressingly plausible.

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            Or maybe they’ll do the exam but the results will be inconclusive and the brain will end up misplaced so that his family can’t have have their own tests done. Hell, the NFL might start adding clauses to contracts that require players to donate their bodies “to science” upon death. Don’t they already require them to use “NFL approved” doctors? Anything to keep independent doctors from diagnosing CTE in their dead players.

            Can’t even enjoy some sports without having to watch late stage capitalism grind humans into pieces.

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        This has to be the most brain dead propaganda take on the internet right now. Yeah he totally didn’t mean to kill who he killed. It was all a happy accident

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          The person is questioning the motivation (with pretty solid points), that doesn’t mean it was an accident. Ironically, your accusation just called your own reading comprehension and reasoning into question while you’re calling this dude brain dead

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      You know, killing the idea of a comfortable life is a pointless idea. Would you give up a delicious cake and tea just to raise the workers’ wages? There is no way to defeat capitalism while people are still alive this is my opinion.

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        Incorrect. Capitalism is failing in front of your eyes, you’re just not educated enough to know what it looks like.

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          Well, I completely agree that I’m not educated enough, you know, I’m not a particularly smart person. But madness, you know… It’s getting to the last now, fat freaks are trying to maintain their fragile power to the last. They think they’ll sit there and when the carnage is over they’ll come out and try to play at civilization again… We live in a crazy world, you know, these freaks might even succeed. I think you now think I’m crazy, but who do you think is normal in such a world?

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            It’s called fascism. It’s not some unknown deep sea creature, it’s human nature’s bad side. That said, we have no perfect economic system and capitalism sure isn’t it. Seeing the fallout now

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        People are able to tighten up the belt if they believe in the cause. And you can even rewind the clock on the capitalist system to see that people were contributing more and taking less for themselves.

        Erosion of social structure was helped a LOT by targeted propaganda. Some of which is influencing your own thought process.

        Think about it.

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          I think you’re right. Honestly, I doubt everything all the time. The propaganda that AI is still better, like adapt, peasants, has a particularly good effect on people. And then the thought struck me: what if we adapt in our own way?

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    This is HORRIBLE! DOESNT he know that if you Want to Commit a MASS SHOOTING in the United States you MUST Target a SCHOOL and NOT places where Rich People wor"KKK"?

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      Capitalism doesn’t acknowledge social murder because doing so would call into question the entire resource extraction imperative of Capitalism itself.

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      and that dude also killed 3 innocent people

      Edit: I stand corrected.

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        One was a cop playing security guard for the oligarchy so two relatively uninvolved collaborators at best.

        I wonder why the news isn’t yelling about how sweet, uninvolved, and innocent those two were?

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          Yep. Pinkertons and armed henchmen are not innocent and are fair game.

          And who knows what happened to the 3rd person? Could have been stray bullets from those two panicking goons. You know how the NYPD loves to kill innocent bystanders with their mindless mag dumps

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    This headline can easily be part of an intended effort to associate the luigie situation with any shooting of a CEO or business leader. Reasons matter. Protecting luigie means enforcing strict conceptual differentiating between him and other acts of violence. We know there’s a difference, we need to enforce that difference in every space the topic comes up. As soon as Luigie is successfully lumped in with random acts of violence, he loses the public sentiment that is his best protection.

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      Reasons matter.

      I mean, you’re not going to want to scratch to hard at Luigi Mangione. He’s a few shades shy of a Zizian, himself. Luigi was deep in with the Silicon Valley Longtermists and a big fan of techno-libertarianism.

      That doesn’t mean Brian Thompson didn’t deserve to have his skull ventilated. It just means you aren’t going to want to turn the shooter into a Messiah figure.

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        I think the tech bros are just trying to claim him as their own. They can’t have him. I think Luigi was mostly about volunteering at old folks homes and rehabilitating dogs rescued from fighting rings and puppy mills.

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    Keep defunding mental health and social welfare, see where it gets you. Feel bad for the recent college grad and the security guard. Not so bad for the cop and the CEO of the corrupt investment firm.

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      Therapy for a year through my insurance: 900 dollars out of pocket.

      Glock 19 gen 5: 550 dollars out of pocket.

      Hmmmmmm, I wonder why this country is so fucked up.

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      Rent-a-cop could have been guarding a school and died saving children. Instead he died guarding an evil building filled with soulless ghouls. No sympathy.

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    I was in NY 2 blocks away when this happened. This dude has no redeeming qualities and would have happily shot you for looking at him funny.

    He wanted to kill people from the NFL but did no reconnaissance and ended up murdering 4 completely unrelated people.

    His manifesto is also just complete madness.

    Edit to add: If anything this is another reason why there should be more publicly available resources for combating mental health issues and tighter gun control. But we all know there will only be thoughts and prayers and no real change coming any time soon.

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        Yeah the important part is not that he couldn’t put together a thesis, it’s that there’s a multi billion dollar industry that gives the hope of millions and stardom to young males as long as they sacrifice their brain health.

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    Wasnt really a Luigi style shooting from what little Wikipedia has to offer so far. Dude just killed a bunch of random people and then offed himself. Literally just a mass shooting.

    He killed:

    • Didarul Islam, a 36-year-old off-duty police officer (ACAB)
    • Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)
    • Julia Hyman, a recent college graduate working for Rudin (questionable)
    • Aland Etienne, a 46-year-old security guard (probably not a cop considering it wasnt specified like with the other one)

    Definitely not a targeted assassination. Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.

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      Just to be clear and without taking sides: Wesley LePatner appears to have been the CEO of the real estate portfolio of rental units. Literally the person most responsible for Blackstone buying up US housing at an alarming rate.

      https://www.businessinsider.com/blackstone-real-estate-executive-wesley-lepatner-killed-gunman-345-park-2025-7?op=1

      LePatner, 43 years old, was the $1.2 trillion firm’s global head of Core+ real estate and CEO of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust, the company’s juggernaut real estate fund for individual investors.

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        Yeah, wouldn’t surprise me if the guy got evicted by them or something like that.

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          He literally had the wrong floor. Complete coincidence that his random act of violence happened to kill someone doing something evil, no one should be praising this guy.

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            Apparently, when the only justice in the world is accidental, people still praise the accident as a wonderful accident.

            Whether you like it or not.

            The scenario where nobody should be praising is the one where CEOs buy up tens of thousands of houses, and rig the prices so that hundreds of thousands of people are negatively affected by rent increases. Sometimes they end up on the street. Where they die.

            That’s the part that you’re ignoring as you pretend to have a sense of morality.

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              It’s not an accident. There’s a high chance of randomly killing someone evil if you walk into any Park Ave office building.

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                Yeah, so far this basically sounds to me like if the guy from Falling Down walked into the building Patrick Bateman works at.

                At worst, from a tactical effectiveness standpoint.

                If it actually was a more or less specifically targeted attack, it would absolutely make sense that this would be massively underplayed and misconstrued by the broad media…

                Because the last thing the broad media wants, is a lot of pissed off, suicidal, heavily armed Americans realizing that this can actually be a shockingly effective tactic, for those with nothing left to lose, ready to meet God or w/e.

                The broader media being basically a totally corporate owned affair, that really, really would prefer it not become normalized that … (semi?) random corpos just start getting gun downed in roughly the American version of insurgent suicide tactics, who are to a great extent capable of acting totally solo and are thus impossible to completely prevent at scale.

                Call it the ‘final form’ of ‘I’d like to speak with your manager’.

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                  I think this development is already a part of the elite survival plan though. It won’t take much for the high net-worth individuals to avoid the street level altogether. The only people actually dying will be their lackies and stooges. And you’ll see a lot more autonomous defense systems popping up to mitigate the damage.

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            Do you have any sources on that? I haven’t seen anything that talks about a potential motive yet.

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            Genuinely, what is your source that he had ‘the wrong floor’?

            To have ‘the wrong floor’ implies there was a ‘correct floor’, which implies either a premeditated set person or set of persons as a target, or a known location associated with some kind of organization or something.

            If it was a random ‘just hurt people’ type of mass shooting, there cannot really be a ‘wrong floor’, beyond maybe a comparison between overall target rich snd target sparse environments…

            Or perhaps it was ‘the wrong floor’ in the sense of ‘the correct floor’ being one that worked with some kind of egress, escape plan?

            Seriously, what do you mean by ‘the wrong floor?’

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                And what is your source on that?

                I am again, genuienly asking for a source.

                This is a recent event, I am not up to speed on the reporting on this, can you please provide a source that his target was the NFL?

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                  The source is the suicide note. The various articles covering this story almost all mention it just read some of them. Hes not perfectly explicit in the note but it seems pretty clear that was his intended target based on what’s contained in it.

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        Wait there’s a company called “Blackstone” as well as one called “Blackrock”, and both buy up real estate?

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          Blackstone is private equity. Blackrock makes the funds normal people buy for their retirement accounts.

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            They manage these huge funds. The people who invested in their funds own the stocks in the funds. Though these companies do vote during stockholder meetings on behalf of their clients without the clients inputs. Thus they wield a lot of power over many companies but they don’t own it all. If all their clients decide to drop them and liquidate they lose all that power.

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            The 3 of them own almost everything

            Do they though? They do own a lot but sovereign wealth funds do too plus, unlike those AFAICT, one can easily switch from say a Vanguard ETF to whatever other investment vehicle they want in an instant. So yes they have tremendous power, too much, and they contribute to shaping markets worldwide… but it’s also not their actual money and other economical actors do exist.

            So I’d argue “own” and “almost everything” is a big exaggerated.

            PS: I’m not an economist so that’s just my candid understanding.

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              There was great writeup about it a few years ago that I can’t remember the name of at the moment. Basically, they all own each other as well. They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms. That is a VERY birds eye view of it but it’s not good.

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                They all own portions of every company and together they all own over 50% in so many things that they have a controlling vote in a majority of board rooms.

                Thanks for the clarification. If you do find the article I’d be curious because if I check the

                and others https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_asset_management_firms whereas sovereign wealth funds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_wealth_fund#Largest_sovereign_wealth_funds are only up to $2T.

                So… if I do roughly the sum of AUM I don’t even get to half of $100T. Maybe they have controlling shares (to define here because not sure I understanding correctly, i.e. single seat on board vs majority of seats in order to actual control) somehow in the US with a total valuation under $50T but somehow overall I don’t see how. Also together would mean some kind of coordination, which I’m not saying is impossible but beside generating more money I’m not sure they have a “goal” that would imply using said control.

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          Blackrock doesn’t do real estate at all. People have been confusing the two companies for a while. It’s Blackstone you should hate for the housing crisis

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            Is it bad I constantly confuse it for blackwater instead? I guess they murder the previous tenants, then buy up the house?

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        It may have been an incidental killing, but her loss will not be mourned by the general public, as she and her efforts are actually a direct and major contributor to the housing crisis we now face. The policies that she enacted are overly hostile towards… you know… literally every fucking normal person who aspires to own a house at some point. She materially contributed to the insane housing price bubble that’s somehow still not popping.

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          Thats because its not hard to pit home owners against those who currently can’t afford a home. People who were able take advantage of circumstance in order to purchase a home need to be far more honest about why they are able to have one now.

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            Totally. This is a function of 1) greed, but also 2) our lack of social safety net – which incentivizes us to maximize personal wealth even beyond what we might need, just because without a personal nest egg, there are very few resources you can count on to help you or your family out in emergencies, or during the crashes and other ravages of capitalism.

            Or as Thatcher put it: there is no society, there are only individuals and families. That wasn’t always true, but it’s becoming truer ever financial quarter.

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        Oh thank God. I thought it was the Blackstone that makes grill tops. I kept wondering what they did wrong.

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          Marketing team did an excellent job choosing a name for the company. You want the most discreet, unassuming name possible for “corporation that owns literally everything and is ruining the economy by principle”

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        I didn’t see that earlier. I think the news hadn’t mentioned this until much later. I understand why my other comment was downvoted so much.

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      Sure, it wasn’t exactly like Luigi but living afraid of being offed by some rando with mental health issues who doesn’t even know who you are is a fear the working class knows all too well and the owning class indirectly created.

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        nah they pretty directly created it.

        virtually every mass shooting is blood on the hands of our ruling class. when they refuse to correct it, rather than being unable to, it becomes apparent what they value more - people or profits?

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          I meant indirectly in the sense that they didn’t actually give someone a gun and told them “go shoot people” but yeah, you’re right.

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      Literally just a mass shooting.

      Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner (…)

      Oh well, at least it took place in a place where the people doing actual damage to society are,instead of a kindergarden like usual.

      Also, maybe it might make more people aware of what’s happening these days.

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      Still better than doing it in a school or club tho.

      I don’t know why, but this sentence gave me a chuckle

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    I neither praise nor blame him. I blame the NFL for not taking good care of him though. No-one deserved to die over that. Fuck capitalism.