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TBF I myself might create a throwaway for asking a controversial question. And they’re not trolling imo.
Even if it does stir up controversy, OP has a fair question that can lead to some interesting discussion.
Heck, I’m American and super interested in the discussion!
I try pretty hard to avoid doing things people hate XD
“Quietly” annoying? That’s a tough one.
Yeah, nothing about Americans is quiet.
And we should inform them!
Voting. You guys are really bad at voting.
Good thing we have the electoral college to make sure we vote correctly :3
The size bragging.
No, Texas isn’t that big. Texas is about the same size as France.
USA also isn’t that big. Europe is larger than USA.
Sure it’s big and all, but the main difference is really just that there are fewer people in USA than in Europe. It has a lower population density, making everything seem further apart.
The reason I find it annoying is that the most obnoxious types have a tendency to use it to validate their own opinions on every fucking topic. Obviously we tiny Europeans just can’t comprehend the scale of their American way of doing things in the most backwards and old fashioned manner.
I’ve met plenty of American immigrants. Most of them are really nice and humble and appreciate learning how stuff works here. However some will eventually encounter something that doesn’t make sense to them, but rather than learn, they’ll cave in on trying to explain in the role of the world conquering strongman why it just won’t work in the scale that they’re used to in America, as if that would make any sense to do in that situation.
It’s delusional.
On the flip side, as a Canadian, I always get a chuckle out of European tourists who think they can drive from Montreal to Vancouver in a day.
I used to work on a local mountain in Vancouver and I once had someone ask about taking a day trip to Niagara Falls. What.
😂 I love it!
I mostly see size pointed out to people who try to draw comparisons between USA and another singlular European country.
Europe is also more concentrated than the US. Sure you are bigger, barely in terms of acreage, but you’re also clumped together. We spread the fuck out so travelling from the tip of Washington State to the tip of Florida is a much longer car trip than traveling from Finland to Portugal, for instance. Not sure that the latter trip would actually be possible, but if it were, I suspect it would be at least 1000 miles shorter, and you’ll notice that I didn’t use Alaska, which would significantly increase the distance. We can actually drive to Alaska currently. That may change if the orange moron decides to invade Canada.
It’s certainly possible to drive from Finland to Portugal. It takes a little more than two days of constant driving. About the same as Seattle to Miami.
I’m not sure I follow the importance of this, unless you’re into long road trips. I would choose a flight in both cases, or a least spread the drive over several weeks for the adventure.
Most people only ever know their local area. And even that can be more than enough. People who live in New York or London don’t have a chance of knowing every street in their cities. They only know the routes that make sense in their lives. They only get to experience wherever they happen to be throughout their lives. Does it then matter which city is bigger, when you can only ever experience a fraction of it in a lifetime?
Neither EU or USA has any city in the top 20 of largest cities world wide anyway. All the really big cities are in Asia.
My point is that I don’t think it makes any sense to claim any value in being from some place that has the largest land or population or cities. They’re just facts that have nothing to do with the individual person.
It matters a lot more to me how people behave, what they are capable of or what they know. I’m not impressed with anyone who simply bases their self worth or identity on being from some place that has something that is bigger than some other place. Maybe patriotism is the real explanation.
And that’s the thing that annoys me about Americans, because quite a few of them seem to have a superiority complex over it. It’s perfectly fine to be proud of what your fellow countrymen have achieved, but it doesn’t automatically reflect back on the individual.
Or put differently: “Oh wow, the Grand Canyon is really impressively grand. Now, which part of it did you make?”
Saying the state or city they’re from when asked where they are from…like the world should know what a Jackson is.
Thinking cheaper automatically means you’re getting more value out of something, (example: I got this whole cake that can feed 10 people for $15 bucks!) ignoring the quality of that thing.
Thinking something expensive automatically means you’re getting something of better quality (example: This bottle of wine is over $100. It’s definitely better than one that uses much better methods of wine production that only costs $20).
Basically, my beef is with Americans having little sense of discernment and/or lack of good taste.
I reject the assertion that this is an American thing… I’ve been in enough other countries and they’re all mostly consumerist cultures that care more about perceived social value than actual quality.
Perhaps, but America is known to export their “culture”, including consumerism. Maybe it’s tainting the world at large…
When some of them have the audacity, to arrogantly correct non-English speakers’ language, when it isn’t even their first language; hell it isn’t even my second, it’s my third. How’s your Dutch motherfucker? I guess this isn’t exactly restricted to Americans, but still…
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Maybe that’s exactly why some of them feel the urge to correct multilinguist haha
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It fills us with a couple emotions.
Only if you’re a bigot.
I’m a product of a shitty American school just like most people. There were zero non-English speakers at my high school.
I have NEVER thought either of those things about Spanish speakers. Or any language, for that matter.
Saying way more about how you were raised than anything.
Bigot.
The same variety every country finds annoying about tourists from different cultures because foreigners. Loud, demanding, not obeying local social cues or courtesies, not speaking any of the language, walking too slow because tourist, crowding, messing up local living conditions thanks to vacation rentals, drunks, etc.
annoyi-
Starting your next sentence even if you know the other person hasn’t finished thier last word yet.
Treating their assumptions about others as facts.
Being Northern Irish I see this a lot. Always about The Troubles, Political Identity, and the modern working of Northern Ireland.
When Michelle O’Neill became First Minister all the plastic Paddy’s came out the woodwork to say that Ireland would be united in 5 years time.
Despite Unionists still holding the majority of seats, the larger share of votes, and British being the most popular political identity.
Imperialism
sayings like “make no mistake”
It is what it is
“the likes of which”
Is this a History Hyenas reference ?
what is history hyenas?
It’s a podcast about history (20%) & comedy (80%). One of the co-hosts says ‘Make no mistake’ often, so I thought that was being referenced.
pancake and honey on it
whaaaaa?
I confess, I mostly expected this post to contain things that also annoy me about my fellow Americans, but here I am now, rocked to my core
Wait, is it actually that rare in the US? I thought honey was a standard alternative!
It is, and the thought that someone would be annoyed by it shocks me
I know Canada is more famous for it, but we produce an absolute fuckton of maple syrup in the states.
Honey is for peanut butter and a drizzle of honey sammiches, baklava, and biscuits, not pancakes or waffles.
I’m a usaian and this is the first time I’ve ever heard of pancakes with honey. Could be a regional thing though. The country is a big place.
Interestingly, people who use honey often do it as a ‘healthier’ alternative to high-fructose corn syrup brands, though maple syrup actually has more minerals like calcium and potassium. Is honey the standard where you are from?
No it definitely isn’t I’ve never heard of honey on pancakes only on toast. Maple syrup is the normal pancake topping. We actually can get the real stuff pretty easily where I am too because Minnesota is practically Canada.
Fun fact: in America most common brands of both honey AND maple syrup are just flavored high fructose corn syrup. It’s not like we don’t have the real stuff on the same shelf, but you have to pay attention to the labels or you might get some bullshit.
A huge amount of the global honey industry is fake. The UK just had a whole big to-do over it.
Invading other countries to kidnapp head of states?
They said QUIETLY annoying. Things you wouldn’t speak up about. I feel like kidnapping world leaders doesn’t qualify as that. I’m American, and it’s been about a full day now, and it’s just now setting in just how insane it is that we just kidnapped a world leader. Just…took him. Meanwhile, here in the states, we’re also kidnapping random people off the street in unmarked cars for committing the crime of being not white.
These are things that should be screamed about, not silent.
Some people are screaming. Most are not. And the words, from those screaming, are cheap. The silence of actions continues to be, and likely will continue to be, deafening.
Oh yeah that’s definitely representative of the majority of us, got us figured out you have
Alright, here’s another one. Americans bragging about their democracy until all of a sudden it’s more convenient to blame the politicians for bad behaviour rather than the electorate that put them in power.
Take some responsibility for your government, does it represent you or not?
Do you understand how voting works? Each person gets one vote. Do you think I, or anyone else, could have somehow forced the 30% who didn’t vote to vote, and not only that but to vote the way we wanted them to? How am I responsible for the choices of people 2,000 miles across the country that I’ve never interacted with? Do I have any control over the propaganda these people are exposed to?
At any given time, only 30-40% of the US is actually represented by the government. At least 30% of us directly voted against all this. Comments like yours make me feel like you’re trying to erase our existence… but I’m sure that’s helpful for somebody.
Schrodinger’s American Citizenship
“If the country is successful, I’m an American. If it’s falling apart, I’m digging through my ancestry¹.”
¹To find out if they qualify for other country’s Citizenship through Ancestry
The assumption that the American legal, political, and cultural context is the “default.” They say “X is illegal” without specifying jurisdiction. They assume a “right wing” or “left wing” party must be like their Republicans or Democrats. And so forth.
Oh how I love these messages about American companies doing illegal stuff and think they can get away with it just because it isn’t illegal in the US, only for the government to come down hard on them.
Even more funny if they have to leave Europe afterwards.
Sorry you can’t bust unions over here.
It’s funny hearing Americans say they hate liberals, and me being able to agree except meaning the exact opposite. Liberal party is right wing for me lol
…cue the argument about what liberal, libertarian, and liberalism really mean. Hell, Americans even (re)define terms to suit their pov, like adding “social liberalism” to make it clear that their definition is correcct. Or my favorite, “Larger Middle East”.
Yes, this is also very noticeable in media. They can have some kind of aliens in a future sci-fi universe that somehow have a legal process and trial that exactly mirrors the American way of doing things. For Americans that’s just normal, not realising this is absolutely not the norm in the rest of the world. Same thing with malls, hospitals, roads and many more things.
And unfortunately due to the prevalence of American media it “leaks” into other cultures as well. I’m Canadian and it’s not uncommon to hear about people being arrested or whatever and claiming that their “first amendment” rights were being violated, or “taking the fifth” (ie, the fifth amendment’s right to remain silent). We actually do have somewhat analogous laws for those things but of course they only know about the American ones and often get the details wrong as a result.
In the Expanse it actually make sense that the UN is in the US… I mean that literally is just irl lol. That UN building location shows just how much the influence the US has. (cuz it really should’ve been in switzerland for neutrality)
It was placed in the US to get the US to stay as a member. None of the big and powerful countries care for UN all that much but them leaving could’ve just been another League of Nations fiasco. Or that was the thinking behind it, iirc.
And now I expect we’ll see another League of Nations fiasco soon, Trump has already denied visas to world leaders that he doesn’t like so that they theoretically can’t come to the UN. The treaty the US signed regarding the UN means they don’t need visas for that, but we all know how Trump loves to follow agreements.
Maybe the UN can survive in some form by relocating, IIRC they do have a secondary office in Geneva already.














